My So-Called Life (1994) - Self-Esteem (Season 1, Episode 12)

Claire Danes (0:08)

I'm Claire Danes.

Winnie Holzman (0:10)

We're sitting here watching the credits roll.

SPEAKER_3 (0:16)

Oh, man, okay.

Winnie Holzman (0:18)

I like these credits.

SPEAKER_4 (0:22)

I love this song.

SPEAKER_5 (0:24)

Yeah, this song is great.

Winnie Holzman (0:45)

Oh, I felt so guilty, Claire, because... No, no, no.

Claire Danes (0:48)

No, in the pilot, you had...

Winnie Holzman (0:51)

I said white.

SPEAKER_3 (0:52)

Yeah, albino white, I remember. And the hairdresser insisted that that would be just devastating to my hair.

Winnie Holzman (1:00)

She just said, we're not going to do that.

SPEAKER_3 (1:02)

Yeah, so she suggested the manic panic fire engine red idea.

Winnie Holzman (1:06)

Do you remember, at least I heard this, maybe it was an urban myth, that apparently one night you were bathing or showering, and it was like a crime scene?

SPEAKER_3 (1:16)

Oh, it wasn't one night, it was every time I bathed. It looked like I was a murderess.

It was kind of funny.

SPEAKER_6 (1:24)

My biggest regret is breaking up with Kyle, like, before midterms.

SPEAKER_7 (1:30)

You're not supposed to cross certain lines.

SPEAKER_8 (1:34)

Sid, hey, I'm a Sidia.

Winnie Holzman (1:36)

May Quigley is a friend of mine from when I was 22 She played that teacher who has a crush on Mr. Kaminsky.

SPEAKER_7 (1:45)

I don't remember. There's this boiler room.

Winnie Holzman (1:49)

That was this thing we had to do, Claire. It was like a puzzle. We had to figure out two scenes in every act that you wouldn't be in.

SPEAKER_3 (1:57)

Oh, for my schooling.

Winnie Holzman (1:58)

Yeah, so I always had to do that. Oh, there was Paul's credit. You know, I would get these ideas borne out of that. Like, oh, there should be someone at school as a crush on Mr. Kaminsky. Aw, here it is.

SPEAKER_3 (2:10)

Oh, wow, we were really going at it. I don't remember that.

SPEAKER_7 (2:15)

I mean... Oh, you don't? I mean, I...

SPEAKER_4 (2:17)

It was...

SPEAKER_9 (2:18)

Well, let's see that again.

SPEAKER_7 (2:20)

Yeah.

SPEAKER_4 (2:21)

Let's not.

Winnie Holzman (2:24)

So this is your... This is my friend May, and Jeff was a really...

was a really good friend of Ed's.

SPEAKER_10 (2:34)

Anyway, I'm glad that they finally hired you. I mean...

Angela Chase? Why weren't you in Geometry Review? Oh, I thought... Angela, you need this. How are you gonna pass your midterm?

Claire Danes (2:48)

Um, yeah, no, I thought it was awkward.

SPEAKER_4 (2:55)

Oh, the descent of Angela.

Winnie Holzman (2:58)

Yeah, this is Angela not being a good girl anymore.

SPEAKER_3 (3:02)

No, well, if there's anybody to undermine...

Winnie Holzman (3:07)

And that's my other friend Margaret Nagel, who's now become a very successful screenwriter.

SPEAKER_8 (3:13)

Oh, really?

Winnie Holzman (3:14)

Yeah. I mean, she's a really busy screenwriter now, but at the time, she was a sometime actress.

SPEAKER_8 (3:21)

Ah, how well. To be continued?

SPEAKER_13 (3:23)

Oh, yes.

SPEAKER_7 (3:24)

Okay.

SPEAKER_13 (3:24)

By the way, if you...

SPEAKER_3 (3:25)

This is a random association, but AJ had attacked the bathroom walls and wrote, like, her own initials and her boyfriend at the time.

SPEAKER_7 (3:37)

You're right! You're right!

Claire Danes (3:39)

It was all over the graffiti.

SPEAKER_4 (3:41)

Yeah, it was kind of cool.

SPEAKER_3 (3:43)

It was our little in-joke. We thought that was hilarious.

Claire Danes (3:50)

See, all I'm going to say is, oh, we were such babies. I know.

Winnie Holzman (3:54)

I know.

SPEAKER_3 (3:55)

I've got to come up with something a little more surprising than that.

SPEAKER_12 (4:00)

Oh, gee, it's going to take me a while.

Winnie Holzman (4:02)

This is a typical Bedford Falls thing of... And I guess a me thing, too, of just putting different literature references into scripts.

But of course, they're in English class, so it's allowed.

SPEAKER_11 (4:15)

Yeah, it's plausible.

SPEAKER_10 (4:20)

I'm transferring out.

SPEAKER_6 (4:21)

Oh, don't.

SPEAKER_14 (4:22)

Then we won't be in the same English class.

SPEAKER_6 (4:24)

So you never even go to English.

SPEAKER_14 (4:26)

Well, in case I ever do. Anyway, isn't Enrique, like, legally your name?

SPEAKER_6 (4:31)

I don't care.

SPEAKER_5 (4:33)

And he acts like he's this really...

SPEAKER_3 (4:34)

I also remember working with Patrick, the costume designer. In the pilot, he described the progression of Angela's development and how she would go from, you know, these conservative clothes to her more grungy...

Claire Danes (4:51)

It was wild that he could...

SPEAKER_7 (4:54)

That he saw the story.

SPEAKER_3 (4:55)

Yeah, that he saw the story and could articulate it through clothing.

SPEAKER_15 (4:59)

That was a new idea to me.