Most Replayed Moment: Tim Dillon’s Brutal Truth About Gen‑Z

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Tim Dillon (0:04)

Line them up, Johnny!

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On July 25th. Time to save the planet.

Tim Dillon (0:10)

What's the plan? Trust me, I hate that planet. That's a bad plan. Come on. That's a stupid plan.

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Prepare for Fantastic.

Steven Bartlett (0:18)

We will face this together as a family.

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Steven Bartlett (0:30)

Podcasting.

Tim Dillon (0:31)

Yeah.

Steven Bartlett (0:31)

It's, I mean, it's taken on a life of its own. What do you think of podcasting? I mean, it's been on a bit of a journey. Obviously, there was this big, I think podcasting was like the OGs of podcasting, like Rogan started out and then-

Tim Dillon (0:42)

Adam Carolla, Joe Rogan.

Steven Bartlett (0:43)

Yeah, and then this was-

Tim Dillon (0:44)

Keith and the Girl are showing New York City, Mark Maron, those guys were in the very, very early.

Steven Bartlett (0:49)

Before it was cool, before anyone was really like, before the money was there.

And then the celebrities show up. It was like a bit of an experiment for a couple of years. It seems Spotify have kind of rolled back from that experiment.

Tim Dillon (0:57)

Yes, because they have nothing to say. Most celebrities don't. A lot of them are invented people who are created in a laboratory. The laboratory is CAA, my agency. And they create a person and they get public relations people, they get lawyers, they get all these people, business managers, agents. They come in and they go, this is who you are. This is what plays. These are the things you highlight about your past. These are the things we don't talk about. Let's leave the Confederate flag at home. You know, they create a person. That person then goes and they're now famous. It's a terrible idea to give that person a microphone and tell them to talk for an hour. It's terrible. You know, many of these people aren't that talented. Some of them are. Some of them are amazingly talented. Some of them are very kind of banal people. People tend to think of Hollywood as this place where it's all satanic pedophiles eating children. Now, undoubtedly, some of that is true. But a lot of it is just very banal, boring people that have been created by these corporations that when you realize how boring they are and then you look at how much money they have and where they live, that's what will drive you. You'll go, oh my God. So that's why podcasting is a really, really bad idea for these people. They should be kept somewhere. They should have very managed things where they come out on the red carpet and they go, how are you doing? And they just go, climate change, and then walk into the auditorium and get an award. They should be allowed to speak two to three words at once and they should know what those words are beforehand. It is a terrible idea to give someone, again, these people that all of their interactions are with other famous people. All of their thoughts are filtered through a prism of, corporate lawyers before they can say anything.

This is not what podcasting is, in my estimation.

Steven Bartlett (2:52)

Is there any celebrity podcast that you think is...

Tim Dillon (2:54)

I'm sure there's some that are really good. This is not everyone, right? I'm sure there are people that have really good podcasts. But like, if we're just talking in general about, let's give A-list actors a microphone, probably not the best idea. Which is probably not the best idea, you know?

Steven Bartlett (3:11)

What's your...

Tim Dillon (3:12)

Because I know they gave Meghan Markle money, they gave a lot of people money there at Spotify. And you know? And so I don't know that that... But then they came out and said, we made a mistake. We shouldn't have given these people money.

Steven Bartlett (3:27)

Do you think you should have gotten the money instead?

Tim Dillon (3:28)

Of course. I absolutely believe that. But you know, I can't compel them to give me the money. I can't compel them. I can't get a member of the royal family to marry me. And I would have stayed in that castle no matter what was said. But I can't have that happen. So I can't, you know, Oprah doesn't interview me. So you get you. I have enough money. But the sure, you know, I think it's podcasting to me. The fun of podcasting is being unfiltered free and just having fun.