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Mo Gawdat: 80% Of Illness Is Linked To One Thing! An Alarming Warning For The Burnout Generation! If You Feel Like This, Quit Your Job Today! artwork

Mo Gawdat: 80% Of Illness Is Linked To One Thing! An Alarming Warning For The Burnout Generation! If You Feel Like This, Quit Your Job Today!

The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

April 25, 2024

Life is getting faster and more hectic than ever before, but is there way to become unstressable? Mo Gawdat is the former Chief Business Officer for Google X, the founder of ‘One Billion Happy’ foundation, and co-founder of ‘Unstressable’.

Speakers Mo Gawdat, Steven Bartlett

TopicsBusinessSociety & Culture

Mo Gawdat (0:00)

There are only three ways where stress will break you, but the majority of how stress kills us is because of stress. But this is completely within your control.

Steven Bartlett (0:09)

Mo Gawdat is back.

Mo Gawdat (0:12)

And this time, he's on a mission to help millions of people manage their stress.

Steven Bartlett (0:15)

No matter what their circumstances.

Mo Gawdat (0:18)

stress is very good for you until it kills you. And what most people don't understand is that it's an addiction. stress is a badge of honor now. It means that I'm wanted, I'm needed. And the reality is that 80% of the stuff you do at work is just to prove you're alive. But we tell ourselves we're too busy. That's a lie. But the truth is that we are getting to the point where this turning into burnout, anxiety, panic attacks. We're all suffering. Now, I think the most interesting part of stress is to understand that what breaks us is the long application of obsessions and nuisances. nuisances are stressors that are triggered every day. And there are so many of them.

The first 10 minutes of your day, you get 10, 15 stressors. And then obsessions create a lot of stress as a result of the lies that you told yourself. This is quite serious.

Steven Bartlett (1:04)

What do we do about it, though?

Mo Gawdat (1:05)

So you get stressed in four modalities. Mentally, emotionally, physically or spiritually. And each of those is a different language. So your mental stress speaks to you in a language that is different than your emotional stress. But if you learn that language, then you can easily deal with that stress when it happens. And it's simple techniques. So we should cover as many of them as we can. So, first of all.

Steven Bartlett (1:36)

Mo, how are you doing?

Mo Gawdat (1:39)

I'm here again.

Steven Bartlett (1:40)

Love it.

Mo Gawdat (1:42)

It's always a pleasure to be with you, Steve. I am doing... I am somewhere between the best time of my life and the most interestingly inviting for change time of my life.

Steven Bartlett (1:59)

What do you mean?

Mo Gawdat (2:02)

I think I'm... Thanks to you, of course, by the way, and many others, I think my message is getting to a lot of people. I think that's really, really, really... It feels such an honor to be actually making progress on my mission and what I stand for.

But I have to say, I think the world is changing in so many ways that doing what we've always done may not deliver the same results. So I feel that I have to revisit very deeply how I can continue to help, how I can continue to explain what I think will be probably the most needed in the times to come, but also not... I think most people don't realize how different the world is going to be in the next five years.

Steven Bartlett (2:58)

Are you talking about AI again, Mo?

Mo Gawdat (3:00)

It's not just AI, Steve. We know that. It's not just AI. It's not just AI.

Steven Bartlett (3:05)

What is it?

Mo Gawdat (3:07)

I remember last time we met, in closing, I was telling you we're hitting the perfect storm. Economics, geopolitical, climate, AI, synthetic biology.

Yeah. And I think the highlight of it is what I call the end of the truth, if you think about what's about to happen in our world. And I will openly say this is going to be the most stressful time of any generation that we've ever met, you and I. It is so disruptive in so many ways. It's so disruptive. It doesn't have to be stressful. It can be navigated so beautifully. But it is going to be so unusual, so unfamiliar for so many of us, I think.

Steven Bartlett (3:59)

What's going to be the cause of the stress?

Mo Gawdat (4:03)

The biggest reason is the pace and the unfamiliarity of the change. It's not the devastation of the impact, if you think about it. As I said, I think we can all sail through this. I mean, a big part of my focus this year is to help explain how people can see all that's happening and really sail through it in a way that doesn't halt the progress, if you want. But so much change in such a short amount of time, I think the reality is that humans become very stressed when we have a lot of unfamiliar change happening in front of us. And I think this is where we stand today. We stand in a world where I think it's led by economics, the level of debt in western societies that cannot be fixed with the normal execution of fiscal policies that leads governments to dilute our economies in ways that are affecting, that is, you know, basically, everyone feels. But I have to admit, I think that, you know, the current economic and geopolitical view of the world is leading lots of governments in the world to, yeah, to create conflicts that are going to expand beyond the current horizon. I don't know if this is how we want to start the conversation, but I believe, you know, you know how it is. Wars are not the results of conflict.

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