Midjourney Medical, AI Talent Wars 2.0, Jake Paul Joins | Derek Thompson, Rene Haas, Robert Slaughter, Rob Reid, Thais Castello Branco, David Senra, Jake Paul & Geoffrey Woo

**John Coogan** (0:00)
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**Jordi Hays** (0:02)
Why am I so zoomed out?

**John Coogan** (0:04)
Look at this little guy over here. Look at this little guy over here.

**Jordi Hays** (0:07)
Right, Maude?

**John Coogan** (0:08)
We got a little guy over here.

**Jordi Hays** (0:09)
There we go, zoom in dramatically while I tell you that we are live from the TBPN, El Triton, the Temple of Technology, the Forks of Finance, the Corp of Capital.

**John Coogan** (0:16)
John is not actually 6'8. He is 4'8.

**Jordi Hays** (0:20)
Apparently. I'm a little guy, but you know who's not. Ramp. Let me tell you about Ramp. Time is money. Say both. Use these corporate cards. Bill Pay accounting and a whole lot more. All in one place.
Midjourney.
Why Midjourney pivoted to Medical Machines? It's not a pivot. It's an expansion. It's a second act, a third act for David Holes, a fantastic entrepreneur, extremely inspiring entrepreneur. Maybe we should give some background on David Holes.

**John Coogan** (0:46)
Should we talk about the show today first?

**Jordi Hays** (0:48)
Yeah, please.

**John Coogan** (0:49)
Because this is the first time that Derek Thompson and Jake Paul have been on the same podcast. And I want to just take a moment to just appreciate that. Because a lot of people said it would never happen. They said it was impossible, that they were just in two different worlds. But we're bringing them together. Derek Thompson's kicking off our guest line up today at 1130
You don't need an introduction there. We have Rene Haas from Arm CEO, also on the board of Softbank. And then we'll be closing it out with David Senra and Jake Paul at the end of the show.

**Jordi Hays** (1:30)
Live in the TBPN Altron. Anyway, yesterday, Midjourney announced a new division of the company, an expansion, not a pivot, called Midjourney Medical. We'll watch the video. We'll go through the Midjourney scanner. Tyler was actually at the launch event, has some news to break it down. But first, let's kick it off with the history of David Holes because it's fascinating.
Grew up in Florida, son of a dentist. He's not the dog walker. He's on team dentist over there, son of a dentist.

**John Coogan** (2:00)
We have a son of a dentist on our team.

**Jordi Hays** (2:03)
And played video games growing up.

**Tyler** (2:06)
Dentist son cam. Look at those teeth.

**Rene Haas** (2:09)
Oh wow.

**Jordi Hays** (2:11)
Wow. Nepo teeth.

**John Coogan** (2:13)
Nepo teeth.

**Rob Slaughter** (2:13)
He's got Nepo teeth.

**John Coogan** (2:14)
Go back, go back, cut back.

**Jordi Hays** (2:16)
Look at that.

**John Coogan** (2:16)
Big smile, big smile. There we go.

**Jordi Hays** (2:18)
He's got the Nepo teeth. That's crazy. That's crazy.

**John Coogan** (2:21)
That's crazy.

**Jordi Hays** (2:22)
Wow.

**John Coogan** (2:24)
Your father really saved his bed for you.

**Jordi Hays** (2:25)
Born on third base with teeth wise. It's crazy over there.
Anyway, played video games as a kid obviously, but starts hacking them, learns a little bit about computers. Super intelligent. PhD in math, track. I don't think he graduated, finished the PhD, but I mean, you know, at that level of engineering. He turned down the PhD to go work at NASA, I think. He was at NASA. Eventually branches into entrepreneurship, starts Leap Motion.
Pretty traditional venture backed startup, raised money. I think Founders Fund was in at least one of the rounds, but it was a grind by all accounts. And so the first product brought hand tracking to VR. We should pull up a video of the original Leap Motion because there's some cool demos and you can see how it worked. And it's not actually that crazy to think about what we're going to talk about today with the Midjourney Medical Scanner if you know the history of Leap Motion and some of the technology that was employed there. Yes, this is a different use case, different product, very much bigger, but in terms of sensing, detecting, mapping, using algorithms, yeah.

**Tyler** (3:36)
Yeah, and so when David was talking about the backstory, he was kind of going through some of the technicalities of how the Leap Motion worked. It was incredible because he was like, I mean, this is early 20 teens, and he's using these deep neural nets, he said. It was a mixture of Xhertz model. It was incredibly far ahead of the curve, just on deep learning, and it's just on this weird side project. It's doing hand motion.

**Jordi Hays** (4:00)
Yeah, everyone thought VR was going to take off. There was so much energy around Oculus and the dev community, but it was a tough, it was a very tough business. A lot of hardware challenges, much less mature supply chain, everything's expensive.