Men Value Love – Women Love Value artwork

Men Value Love – Women Love Value

The Rational Male

January 21, 2026

Men Value Love – Women Love Value Now Available: Rational Male - Reignite: A Guide to Self-Reinvention - https://a.co/d/59wbnzx
Speakers: Shan Booty, Rollo Tomassi
**Shan Booty** (1:53)
We don't have a word for this particular kind of person. So we have a word for women, we say gold diggers. And those are people that we understand are chasing after people who have money. Now, a gold digger is actually a gold pursuer, if anything. I mean, digger is actually a fine word too, because digging is a manual job. It takes effort, it takes tools, it takes time. It's not an easy thing. We're not saying gold tripper, they didn't just stumble upon it, they had to actively pursue the gold. And these women go to the weekends, they go to the events, they go to the bars where these people are. They put themselves in position to meet a certain kind of man. Now we have the same thing with male podcasters, where you're putting yourself in a position to be surrounded by a certain kind of woman. And not because you're a traditional high-value man that they would go after, but because you're digging and you're purposefully putting yourself in a position to be viewed. And again, the power dynamics is skewed in that place because you're interviewing them. And so there is an inherent pressure to try to impress or to answer questions in a certain way, which can throw up the power dynamics and again, make you appear like you have more perceived value than you actually do in the real world. And through this and people watching you, obviously that validates you and then you get more value. But I don't actually know if like boiled down, you are the people that you're talking about.

**Rollo Tomassi** (3:22)
Yeah, there you go. Well, that's what we're gonna be talking about today. Yes, does her perspective hurt your brain? Yeah, it hurts my brain too. I didn't, I'm sorry, I came in here really hot today. I've got a lot on my plate, and doing this show is part of that. What I'm doing today, so thank you guys for joining me. Yeah, hoops in the house, right? Hoop earrings, you know what that means. If you don't know what that means, ask Sterling Cooper. He knows all about it.
Oh, man. Oh, gosh. I guess I got a little bit of a leg today. I think I'm all right. I think we'll be all right. The recording here is a little weird. Okay. So big news, big announcement that I was sort of hinting at. Yeah, one of you guys got it right yesterday, or last week, I should say. I am going on the Patrick Bette David show. And that will be on Tuesday, this coming Tuesday, which is why I will be flying out to Fort Lauderdale, Crack of Dawn, tomorrow. And I will be there for about the, well, actually the full week. So I'll be there Monday through be flying back on Saturday. I'm going out there to do the Patrick Bette David show on Patrick, the PBD podcast. The time is going to be at, let's see where, excuse me, 9 a.m. Eastern Time. And actually, I have the, I don't know why I didn't have this already queued up here. Give me one second. And I will put it in the, put it so you can see it here. But I will be on with Patrick Bette David. If you don't know who Patrick Bette David is, he is the CEO and founder of Valuetainment. I didn't even know that they had moved out to Fort Lauderdale. He was, they were stationed, I think he began Valuetainment in Los Angeles, I think, or somewhere in California. He was a California guy, a Southern California guy.
And now he's out there, and they said, hey, we want to fly you out, we want you to come out and do the show. So that is what I'm going to do. And actually here is the thumbnail they gave me. So I will be out there Tuesday, February 8th, 9 a.m. Eastern Time. Sorry, I should have that queued. My bad. That's going to be real interesting. I'm familiar with with Patrick now, certainly. More so now. I heard the guy. I think I was suggested him. Let's see. Yeah, I got flued out. My bad. I was watching videos of his when certain personalities and people that he was interviewing would come up in my feed. So I was familiar with him in that situation, but I didn't really know. Oh, is he back? Oh, he's back to Florida. He's not out. Okay, so I guess he came back from where he was before, but I know he had relocated. It's a brand new studio, isn't it? Somebody can... I know he was in one studio. I've seen other videos where he's kind of like bumping around, but if I'm not mistaken, it's the one that he is right now with the big kind of bank vault in the back of it right now. I'm pretty sure that's going to be our backdrop or our studio when we're out there. I don't know, but it could be different, but I'm pretty sure that's where it's going to be. That's where he's been doing a lot of his interviews most recently. And he's interesting. He's got a variety of things going on. I was actually a little bit surprised, honestly, when I got the call. And I'll give you the background on this real quick before we jump into today's topic. I was in Houston for the Rebel Capitalist event, Georgia Gammon's conference out there. And of course, if you follow my channel, you know that myself and Justin Waller did an interview. I don't even call it an interview. We just did a talk with Robert Kiyosaki. And Robert Kiyosaki is fairly well connected. So I'm fairly certain that's how Patrick Bet-David got in touch with me. Because as soon as I was on my way back from Houston, I got an email from his producers and they said, hey, we'd really like to have you out. And they gave me a date and I accepted. So it is in Fort Lauderdale, so that's easy for me to go down and do a show with my good friends on Fresh and Fit, my very good friends. If you know what I'm talking about, you know what I'm talking about. So anyways, so I will be down there. I will be doing a solo show with Myron Fresh on that same day on Tuesday, but it will be in the evening. I'm not sure what our actual time is just yet, but I was actually just talking to Myron right before I came on here. So I'll be doing a solo show. Also, Donovan Sharp and Aaron Clary will be out there the same week, and I believe we're going to have Tommy Sotomayor on with us as well. So we're going to do a panel of four guys, myself, Aaron Clary, Donovan Sharp, and Tommy Sotomayor. I'm fairly sure he's confirmed. It was actually going to be Coach Greg Adams, but I don't know that he was able to come out that week. So Tommy Sotomayor is going to be out there as well, as far as I know. And of course, we'll probably do an after-hour show, and we'll probably do some other stuff out there. I will also be doing some live footage, I guess, or some sort of video while I'm there. I've got my traveling camera, which is my second camera, which is right here. So I'll be doing stuff probably live from the road this time. I'll be a little bit more organized for this one. And let's see. Also, if you don't follow me on Instagram, now is the time to do it, because I will most likely be doing some behind-the-scenes stuff, and I will be doing some Q&As on my Instagram. Not because I'm necessarily trying to get it to grow. It's just that it's easier to do for my new iPhone 13 So I'm sort of getting into doing the same thing, kind of what Fresh does when he does the pre-show stuff. So if you don't follow me on Instagram, why not? Also follow me on Twitter as well. If you want to ask me questions, yes, and the answer is yes. I still do private consultations. I also have a Patreon, and I do a monthly conference, Zoom conference. I believe we have 14 guys now. And I am going to top that out. I'm going to close the doors at 25 That is the top tier in my Patreon. It is $200 a month. And for that, you get a two-hour conference call with myself and the other 14 guys that are there. We have a really good conversation. So if that's something that you are interested in, please sign up on Patreon. All of those links, by the way, are in my description as usual. So there you have it. Sorry, I had to do the... I had to do the... Let's see, the housekeeping first, the bookkeeping first for this one, simply because PBD is kind of a big deal. So I want you guys to all know right before we get into anything here. Now, today's topic is kind of a... I want to say an extension of what I was doing on Rule Zero yesterday. And it was a similar topic we were talking about is the mainstream, I guess, I don't even know really what to call the mainstream right now, but is the mainstream beginning to accept the idea that the red pill, or at least portions, parts, pick and pull parts of the red pill, are something worth investigating, or something like, it's certainly a topic de jure amongst, amongst, you know, I don't even know really what to call mainstream. Obviously, Joe Rogan is mainstream. He's been in the news, of course, because of Spotify and all that other stuff that's going on. I apparently, I guess, you know, would say Dr. Jordan Peterson. Is he mainstream? I don't know. It's hard for me to sort of like figure out, like who's the big deal and who's not the big deal. I guess Peebee, is Patrick Bette David a big deal? I think so. What I call him mainstream, I don't know, is he, you know, maybe it's just me being the Gen Xer that I am. But like, when I think mainstream, I'm thinking somebody like, you know, Tucker Carlson or somebody who's on like sort of commercial TV. And maybe that's maybe I'm wrong about that. Is Tim Poole mainstream? Is, you know, Dave Rubin? Is Ladder with Cry, Steven Crowder? Is he mainstream? I don't know. I don't know. So I'm kind of having, I think we're kind of in the wild west here when it comes to sort of internet media these days. But a lot of these guys are coming to the conclusion that there's something going on with, we have a crisis of masculinity or the crisis of, you know, we can't get guys to measure up to women's expectations. And so therefore, we're going to have to at least discuss this on our program right now. And we have to address these things, because I think that sort of speaks to a larger narrative as well, as you know, that I have been talking about for quite some time. But The Red Pill is not just about, you know, guys, you know, pick-up artists. It's not just about dating coaches. It's not just about, you know, how can I get my dick wet? That's not what it's about. It's part of it for sure, but it's not the only part of it. It's a great, it's part of a greater whole. And also, god damn it. Sorry, I didn't mean that. It is part of a greater, greater than the sum of its parts. Let's just say that. Maybe I should have said that instead. However, I think that a lot of people are starting to stand up or starting to at least, you know, stand up and take notice of what's going on. So when I am talking to, say, someone like Robert Kiyosaki, and I know if you guys are familiar with what his personal situation is, and I love the guy to death, you know, and I just met the guy about a year ago and started talking to him. I think it was March of last year is when I started talking with Robert. And, you know, it's that kind of friendship that gets built over the fact that, you know, he needed the red pill, right? He needed to read my book. He needed to, you know, people suggested it to him, and it goes from there, and it kind of snowballs from that perspective. But it's not just about, you know, necessarily making those personal relationships. It's also about, like, the, you know, how is this affecting society? That's what people kept saying, you know, why are you going to the, to the rebel capitalists and talking about the red pill in economics? Because that's part of it. That's part of that greater whole. And I think the, the, the idea that we have some, we have got to address something. I mentioned this on, was on Rule Zero last night, or yesterday. Sean Penn has come out talking about how feminized and how, you know, how big a pussies, you know, the men of this generation are that, you know, today's men are just not masculine anymore. And this is Sean Penn, by the way, talking about this. And yes, I already saw this in the, in the, in the chat here, and I'm going to address this as well. I was going to do, I was going to, I'm still toying with the idea of doing a dedicated video about the Kanye West situation. Please put that on, let's put that on simmer for a little while. Let's let that one heat up a little bit longer. But I have seen it, and I probably will do a dedicated video to it. But again, his situation, that has everything to do with the red pill. And so as soon as that hit, and if you don't know what I'm talking about, it's like, I believe he was not permitted to see his children at school or something like that, because Kim or somebody say, you're not allowed to be over here, because I don't think that, I don't know if there's a restraining order, but maybe there's just some sort of arrangement where he's not allowed to pick up the kids at a certain time or whatever. And it's like, welcome, brother, welcome to The Red Pill, welcome to out of your insulated world into what guys have to deal with on a daily basis, guys who are sharing custody. Now, you are amongst those ranks now. And so that's part of it. That's part of that, the sum is greater than, or the parts in the sum, that kind of stuff. He's part of that now, and that's the reason why we're having those conversations. And you know what? That situation, and that video, and that revelation, that suddenly now he's realizing what the common man goes through when it comes to his child custody and all that stuff. It's like, for us, we've been talking, for me in particular, I've been talking about this for 20 years, but even if you just got into it 10 years ago, or five years ago, or even three years ago, it seems like, oh, wow, this is going mainstream. So something's starting to roll here. And again, I don't know really how to define what is mainstream and what is not, particularly in the YouTube age, in the age of social media. I mean, maybe somebody would say, I'm mainstream. I don't think I am. And I answered that question on Fresh and Fit last year, in March, as a matter of fact, when they asked me, they said, is the red pill going mainstream? And I said, I hope not. I hope not. In fact, I think that what defines what we call red pill awareness or how we come to that red pill awareness has to be something where it's more personal. And it has to be something that's focused not on money, not on brand, not on whatever, not on commercialization. It has to focus on the truth. It has to focus on what's really going on. What is the actual situation? How do we solve these problems?

218 more minutes of transcript below

Feed this to your agent

Try it now — copy, paste, done:

curl -H "x-api-key: pt_demo" \
  https://spoken.md/transcripts/1000651996090

Works with Claude, ChatGPT, Cursor, and any agent that makes HTTP calls.

From $0.10 per transcript. No subscription. Credits never expire.

Using your own key:

curl -H "x-api-key: YOUR_KEY" \
  https://spoken.md/transcripts/1000746007705