Liz Wiseman: Multiplying Genius

Michael Gervais (0:04)

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She's an open book. And so she takes us in lots of different avenues on the path that led her to understand what she would say as at the center of leadership. She enjoys iterating quickly. She understands the space between intention and thought. And we dive into that in the conversation.

And what she's come to understand that her mission is to help leaders to become more aware of their intelligence and how it either shuts down or facilitates space for others to explore their own genius. All right. So I hope you enjoy this conversation.

Those of us who are interested in taking insight, taking the ideas and the relationships that we build with other people and moving them across a mission or a life that has meaning and value and adds to the world, I think you're going to love this conversation. So let's jump right into it with Liz Wiseman.

Liz, thank you for coming on and having this conversation.

Liz Wiseman (5:12)

Oh, absolutely. My pleasure, Michael.

Michael Gervais (5:14)

Yeah, and you've been in the field and in the space of teaching leaders and executives, concepts and understandings and practices on essentially how to help them be better.

And you've got three books that I'm sorry, two books that I've been tracking and deeply interested in. And more importantly than the books, I want to talk about first how you set down this path. And the curiosity is like, when did you first begin to be interested in the psychology or the thinking and the behaviors of how people excel? When did that first begin to take place for you?