Lindsay Clancy - Part 1: The Killing of the Clancy Children | #466

**Suruthi** (0:08)
The story of Lindsay Clancy and what happened in the basement of 47 Summer Street on the 24th of January 2023 is anything but straightforward. At the heart of it, three children, Cora, aged five, Dawson, aged three and eight-month-old Callan were brutally murdered in their own home by the woman they trusted the most, their mother.
From the moment of her arrest, Lindsay Clancy has never disputed that fact. And I know there are people out there who question this, and we'll deal with that later in this episode.

**Hannah** (0:43)
That was going to be my first question for you, because I haven't written this one. I'm quite glad I haven't written this one, actually. I think it might have had quite an irreversible effect on my mental health, but...

**Suruthi** (0:55)
Can confirm.

**Hannah** (0:57)
What I have been served on the TikToks is quite a lot of people talking about the husband. So I want to know where you stand before we even do anything.

**Suruthi** (1:09)
Before we even do it, I mean, like, yeah, if it wasn't clear from my introduction, Lindsay Clancy killed her children. Patrick Clancy did not kill his children and frame Lindsay Clancy. Like I said, we will deal with that at the end of the episode. And, you know, maybe it's refreshing to get that out there now, because all the people who are going to vehemently disagree with me and don't want to hear why that's not the case, can just stop listening now if that's what they choose to do.
But like, I just, I don't know. I literally don't know. Well, I do know what to say because it's in this episode. But no, Lindsay Clancy killed her children. Let's get it all out on the table. Let's go for it. Because absolutely, like, Lindsay Clancy has never disputed that fact. And from the police and the prosecution to the defence, Lindsay Clancy's own defence, and everyone who knew Lindsay Clancy, and Lindsay Clancy herself, they are all in total agreement that Lindsay killed her children. The question isn't who, the question is why.
And why.

**Hannah** (2:14)
So, is Lindsay Clancy a cold-blooded killer who was sick of her three children? Did she murder them to be free of the burdens of motherhood and to start again?
Or was Lindsay Clancy a victim of medical malpractice, struggling with severe postpartum psychosis and perhaps even undiagnosed bipolar 2 desperately and repeatedly seeking help for her deteriorating mental health? Only to be shunted from one pill to another and seemingly failed by every professional she encountered? And in the end, killing her children in a psychotic break? Or was it something else altogether?

**Suruthi** (2:58)
This was the quandary at the centre of the trial that has just played out in Plymouth Superior Court in Massachusetts.
And with the trial now finished, let's talk about it. But before we do, it's worth mentioning, if we haven't already skirted around that topic, that this case got a lot of attention online. More than I honestly think I have seen for a case in a very, very, very long time. So I know that people have their opinions, very, very strong ones. All I can say is that I, over the month of August, have watched every day of this trial with an open mind. And I have changed my mind repeatedly on certain things.
And we're going to talk about it all over the next two weeks. This does have to be a two-parter.

**Hannah** (3:47)
There is so much.

**Suruthi** (3:48)
I've never had so many notes for a case before. I think I had like about 150 pages of notes at one point.

**Hannah** (3:53)
Oh, I know. I was monitoring you.

**Suruthi** (3:57)
It's all going on. And I literally, I was in bed last night. I felt like I was fizzing. I felt like I was fizzing with having too much information in my head. I needed like what Dumbledore's got in Harry Potter, where he can just like pull things out of his brain and put it into that sphere.
And that sphere for me was this Google Doc sheet. Like it's just, it's a lot of information. There's a lot of information. So yes, we're going to talk about it over the next two weeks. And we're not all going to agree at the end. I think that is pretty much evident based on the discourse that's going on online. We're not all going to agree at the end.

**Hannah** (4:33)
And also that's fine.

**Suruthi** (4:35)
Yes, that's absolutely fine.

**Hannah** (4:37)
And it's fine to also change your mind. And all of those other things, we don't have to plot each other's demises.