Kevin O'Leary Reveals the Future of Bitcoin, Crypto, & AI!

**Mohammed Bakhashwain** (0:00)
The fortunate thing about us is, whoever buys the chips is going to need our capacity. And if they don't have capacity, they're not going to have the chips. So we sit in a market-neutral position to that problem.

**Kevin O'Leary** (0:11)
Whichever chain establishes their protocol in at least one large company in each sector, you want to own that chain. Because as far as enterprise is concerned, they don't consider crypto on blockchain to enterprise software. It's inventory management. It's contract control.

**Tony Edward** (0:35)
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Hi, everyone. Welcome into the Thinking Crypto Podcast. I'm Tony Edward.

**Amanda Wickroft** (3:03)
And I'm Amanda Wickroft.

**Tony Edward** (3:04)
And joining us is Kevin O'Leary, who is a well-known entrepreneur and investor, chairman of O'Leary Ventures and an investor on Shark Tank. And with him is Mohammed Bakhashwain, who is the founder, president, and CEO of Bitzero, which is a future-ready data center company with extensive experience in Bitcoin mining and the high-performance computing sector. Gentlemen, great to have you both.

**Mohammed Bakhashwain** (3:28)
Thank you. Thanks. Good to be here.

**Tony Edward** (3:31)
Mo, I would love to kick it off with you. Can we talk about Bitzero and, you know, your background and what led to the founding of Bitzero?

**Mohammed Bakhashwain** (3:39)
Absolutely. So, my background comes from a very, you know, conventional business, which is real estate.
Done some creative structures around, you know, closing the gap between finance and real estate through securitization for a while. Alongside financial services and crypto, I was a part of a financial intermediary in Switzerland that focused on crypto products and services. We had an OTC exchange, we launched some DeFi products, did some advisory on tokenization, and that business went more towards the financial services, which lacked the tangibility of my background being in real estate. So that pushed me to exit that business and immediately find the perfect marriage which is powered land and Bitcoin mining. So that brought the two things that I liked the most or had the passion for together. So hard asset, real estate, power, and with an ownership model, which is back then a lot of Bitcoin miners were leasing their facilities rather than owning them. We went directly for an ownership model, thinking of those assets, even outlasting certain bear cycles of crypto and also serving other industries, which we're seeing the fruits of today.