Kamala Harris: America Is At Breaking Point & I'm Deeply Concerned About The State Of The Country!

Kamala Harris (0:00)

I'm going to just be honest. There were times where Joe Biden greatly disappointed me and frankly, you know, angered me. Like, on the day of my debate with Trump, the stakes were so high and the president calls and he said to me, it just was so unnecessary.

Steven Bartlett (0:19)

And you took something from that?

Kamala Harris (0:20)

That his motivation was all about himself.

Steven Bartlett (0:23)

Do you think he wanted you to win the election? Let me admit, I'm vice president. There's nothing you said I couldn't ask you.

Kamala Harris (0:29)

Because I have a lot to say. And so, f*** it.

Steven Bartlett (0:34)

Okay, so do you wish you hadn't ran?

Kamala Harris (0:36)

No, but I do regret that we did not have more time.

Steven Bartlett (0:38)

And then the debate that came before with Biden and Trump, it was a car crash. I mean, this was clearly an individual that was very much struggling.

Kamala Harris (0:45)

He didn't want that debate. I could tell something was a little off.

Steven Bartlett (0:48)

How did you know?

Kamala Harris (0:49)

Well, I could start with this.

Steven Bartlett (0:50)

And what about not going on Joe Rogan's show?

Kamala Harris (0:52)

I definitely regret that we didn't do it. But there was a lot of games being played.

Steven Bartlett (0:56)

And then on that night, when the election hasn't gone your way, what would I have seen if I was a fly on the wall in the room?

Kamala Harris (1:01)

I was in a state of shock. Like, I haven't felt anything similar to the emotion I felt that day, other than the grief I felt when my mother died. And I knew what was going to happen to our country. So I had a hard time reconciling that we can't still do something about it because I grew up in an environment where everyone was fighting for justice and for equality. So I do think about how different it could have been. But sometimes the fight takes a while.

Steven Bartlett (1:26)

Does that mean that you're going to run again?

Kamala Harris (1:29)

I...

Steven Bartlett (1:33)

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Madame Vice President, how are you doing?

Kamala Harris (2:22)

I am well. I am well. I mean, all things considered, I am well. My family is good health, so I start there, but otherwise, you know, it's a troubling time.

Steven Bartlett (2:37)

What are the full range of emotions, when you said all things considered, what's the full pitch of that?

Kamala Harris (2:44)

Everything from grateful and feeling very blessed to extremely troubled, disappointed, concerned of the state of our country and by extension the world. Like a lot of people who are watching the news and reading the news, there's a state of anxiety. What will happen next? I often have found myself saying to people, it may get worse before it gets better. And so, the knowledge of that, perhaps the anticipation of that, I think keeps me and many others on edge.

Steven Bartlett (3:28)

Do you believe that? Do you believe it could get worse before it gets better?

Kamala Harris (3:31)

I think it's very possible. Every day, because actually during the book tour, I've said it to audiences and in one city and then the next day, something happens. There's a lot that's very unpredictable about this administration, although there is almost all of it that I did predict.

Steven Bartlett (3:50)

Now, I know you only had 107 days to potentially intervene in the course of history. But when you see these things playing out that you're referring to, that incite those feelings you have of frustration, a little bit of anxiety, etc., do you feel a sense of responsibility in a weird way?