JRE MMA Show #85 with Max Holloway

Joe Rogan (0:00)

Took yoga, hung out my dog, and now we're here.

All right, we're live. What's up, Max? How are you, brother?

Max Holloway (0:07)

Yeah, how you doing?

Joe Rogan (0:07)

I'm good.

Max Holloway (0:08)

Finally here. I've been asking for about, I think, what, 17? 17 fights straight.

Joe Rogan (0:18)

We tried to organize it a couple of times, but, Mayman, you live on an island in the middle of the ocean.

Max Holloway (0:23)

I know.

Joe Rogan (0:24)

It's a little, it's a different thing, you know, logistically.

Max Holloway (0:26)

I know, I know, but you finally made it happen. You, man, I can't wait.

Joe Rogan (0:33)

So how you doing, man? Everything all right?

Max Holloway (0:35)

Everything good.

Joe Rogan (0:36)

Walking good?

Max Holloway (0:37)

I'm walking great.

Joe Rogan (0:38)

Yeah, you look totally fine.

Max Holloway (0:40)

Oh yeah, I told you guys, I was, I had an after party after the fight. I was boogin. I was doing the power slide. Yeah, chain smokers, they were actually at Excess. Well, they had their concert thing at Excess, and they brought me up into their booth, and I was trying to get him to let me jump on and off the stage with him, because he looked like he was having fun.

Joe Rogan (1:04)

That's amazing, man, because your left leg, it looked like, at least during the fight, it was getting busted up.

Max Holloway (1:09)

Yeah, yeah, you know, it's...

Joe Rogan (1:11)

He just used to do it.

Max Holloway (1:12)

Yeah, it is what it is, you know.

I got to watch the fight a little bit over, you know. And you're not talking about the fight. A lot of people, actually about the press conference, when I said I thought I won, I think so people, people is taking it the wrong way. A lot of his fans is taking it the wrong way. It's like when I was in there, in my mind, I thought I won because I, when you think about it, I thought I was landing more damaging shots to the head and body, you know. I know the leg kicks, he was landing here and there, but I didn't think it was too much until after I saw whatever happened, you know.

But at the end of the day, you know, it's like, it's what I said. I just, my legs felt fine, I went to the after party, I danced, and if I put it in this way, you know, out of all my title fights, this is the least damage I took in a title fight, and I lost my belt, so.

Joe Rogan (2:03)

You mean like to the face and to the body.

Max Holloway (2:05)

Yeah, to the face and to the body, you know. And he hit me with a, some of the leg, I know he was landing some leg kicks, and some was power, but then a bunch of other ones, I thought so, like, you know, I didn't know that it was landing that much to that extent. And then again, this is a, it's not a street fight, you know. It's not a street fight.

It's a game, and he helped pointing me in the game. So, you know, good for him.

Joe Rogan (2:28)

Yeah, it's an interesting game when it comes to scoring, right? Because, like, what should be scored more, punches or leg kicks? Like, you know, it's hard. Like, leg kicks are damaging, they mean a lot. I mean, fights have been stopped on leg kicks, you know. But Barboza, I think, stopped two people with leg kicks.

Max Holloway (2:44)

Yeah, two people, I think, yeah.

Joe Rogan (2:45)

Yeah, but it's just, it's...

I think the system sucks, the 10-point must system. It's boxing system, it's not our system. We shouldn't have that system. We should have a more comprehensive system that recognizes everything.

Max Holloway (2:59)

And then sometimes it's weird, too, you know, especially, like, not technically my fight, but, like, other fights, like, people, you see people who stick and move nice, and this and that, and just because the guy is walking forward, he's winning the fight. And then, like, you see them get into, you see people get into scuffles, and then one guy bounce back, it looks like he's retreating, but he's actually not. He lands more in the scuffle, and since he bounced back, they're like, oh, I think that guy that was staying there was actually winning the fight. So it's what you said, it's just super, like, you know, some guys, like, they favor a little bit more thing than another thing.