JRE MMA Show #75 with Dan Hardy

Dan Hardy (0:00)

bring notes.

Joe Rogan (0:01)

No, sometimes you remember things. Boom, and we're live. Sometimes I have to remember things.

Like if there's a thought that popped in my head or something I just forgot, I need to write things down. Too many ideas just slip away. They slip away.

Dan Hardy (0:16)

But one thing you said a while ago, which I've tried to start using are the voice memos on my phone.

And I'm not very good at it. You say you record straight into your phone all the time.

Joe Rogan (0:24)

Yeah, it's really good.

Dan Hardy (0:25)

I'm trying to make it fun. I've got an old school Elvis microphone and like a 1950s style cord into an old recorder. And I'm trying to use that a bit more because we were talking about Hunter S. Thompson. I like the idea of recording stuff as I'm moving, but it's a habit I'm not getting into right now.

Joe Rogan (0:40)

Well, I think recording anything, like when you have an idea, they go, goddamn it, this is a good idea. Like grab it, grab it. I think as Neil Brennan said it best, that he looks at his notebook like a net for catching ideas.

Dan Hardy (0:54)

I like that. I love that. Why am I always driving though? I'm always driving. Always.

Joe Rogan (0:58)

Always. Because I think when you're in the zone, like you're driving, there's something about, like you know how sometimes you could be like miles away, and you're like, how the fuck did I get here? Like you're sober. And you're driving. And you're like, how did I drive miles? I evidently changed lanes.

I know where I'm going.

Everything was inside the lanes, but I'm barely there. What is that? I don't know, I don't know. You get in the zone, because you're so accustomed to doing it, and you're tuning in to everybody around you, and sometimes you're probably a better driver when you're doing that, because you're not being conscious. You're just being aware and just being in the moment.

Dan Hardy (1:37)

Feeling the road.

Joe Rogan (1:37)

Yes.

Dan Hardy (1:38)

Being present. It's very nice, but my best ideas come then, and I have no way to record them.

Joe Rogan (1:42)

But I think it's because you're in that weird mind state. A lot of people also get the same thing when they walk. A lot of writers, what they like to do is they like to write, and then they like to go on walks and think about the writing.

And the idea is that when you're on the walk, you just get left, right, left, getting a little bit of cardio in, going up hills, and all you're thinking about is you're breathing and you're moving, and those eyes just sort of bounce around the back of your head and get washed, like they're in a washing machine. Like, what's in there?

Dan Hardy (2:10)

Like a filtration system, just kind of shaking them through.

Joe Rogan (2:13)

Yeah, because you're not doing anything else other than walking, right? So you're just walking, and then my ideas are just bouncing around in there.

Dan Hardy (2:18)

Yeah, or running.

Same thing again, you must find that. An idea pops in my head, and I'm like, I'm definitely going to be remembering this.

Joe Rogan (2:24)

Yeah.

Dan Hardy (2:25)

And next thing I'm into, balls to the wall, and there, there, and it's gone. It's gone forever.

Joe Rogan (2:31)

Yeah. Mitch Hardberg had a funny joke about that he keeps a note by his, a notepad by his bed, because every now and then, like he'll have some sort of an idea that he needs to write down.

Or if you don't have a notepad, I have to pretend that it wasn't a good idea. I'm paraphrasing it. I did a terrible job paraphrasing it. I couldn't remember exactly how it was worded. But it's like, yeah, that thing, like ideas are strange, man. I entertained for a while the idea that ideas were life forms.

That because we don't think of them like, look, there's a lot of different life forms, right? I mean, there's squids, and there's chimps, and there's barracudas, and there's hawks. There's a lot of different life forms. There's insects. I mean, there's a lot of different ones.

What if that's what ideas were? And that what they're doing is just making their way. And the more you nourish them, the more they grow, the more you pay attention to them, the more they propagate your head with new ideas. And then you take action on those ideas, and it creates everything the world's ever seen that humans have created. All that stuff comes from ideas. Everything from cars to buildings to planes. All that comes from ideas. 100% of it. But yet we don't even think about what the ideas are. Like, what the fuck is that? You just get some random new way of looking at things. What is happening? Is this just pure calculation, or are you interacting with some sneaky little influencer that wants to give you credit for it? Like, God damn, Hardy, you're so smart with these ideas. You know what you should do? You should build that building.