JRE MMA Show #62 with Brendan Schaub

Joe Rogan (0:02)

Five, four, three, two, one. And yee-haw, Brendan Schaub.

Brendan Schaub (0:10)

What's up, dog?

Joe Rogan (0:11)

Did you buy those shoes yourself?

Brendan Schaub (0:12)

Yeah, I bought these. Just want a little too much flair for you.

Joe Rogan (0:16)

It's summer, bro. Confident move. I like you got the tight pants around the ankles.

Brendan Schaub (0:21)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (0:22)

Just riding high enough to see the Gucci shoes. Yeah. I get it, bro.

Brendan Schaub (0:25)

Gucci denim, bro. I get it. What's up, bro? Yeah, it works.

Joe Rogan (0:29)

You can pull it off.

Brendan Schaub (0:30)

You're making fun of me.

I always say like, I bet your girls like these. You're like, yeah, girls also like dick though, man. Good point. Legit point, sir.

Joe Rogan (0:43)

It's true. It's true. It's so true.

Dude, how about these fights?

Brendan Schaub (0:47)

Oh my God. How about these fights? How about I almost didn't see them and I text you during the broadcast. The ESPN Plus thing was a nightmare, man.

Joe Rogan (0:55)

Yeah, they had some hiccups.

Brendan Schaub (0:57)

That'd be an understatement.

Joe Rogan (0:58)

Yeah, that has happened before, right? With digital stuff.

Brendan Schaub (1:03)

In 2019, though, especially with ESPN, though. That's where I was just shocked. And me being like a super fan, I had to figure it out. But you know how I had to figure it out? Because it didn't work on any platform. So, and it's a hiccup where you kind of order it off the app. So you had to close the app, order it from a desktop, then shut down something, then go to your TV. It was a nightmare. But that didn't work for me.

And then I was like, all right. And then I slowly was missing the first fight. I'm like, man, I gotta figure stuff out. And then I tweeted out, I was having problems.

And 2,000 savages sent me links to legal streams.

Joe Rogan (1:40)

Legal or illegal? Illegal. But of course you didn't watch those illegal streams.

Brendan Schaub (1:45)

I didn't, Joe. And I'm glad you pointed out I did not. But if I were going to, Would it be awesome? It was awesome and clear. It was HD and had zero problems. If I was going to.

Joe Rogan (1:55)

I'm glad you didn't, because they could track you, that face recognition software.

Brendan Schaub (1:59)

They could definitely track me. It's a huge problem.

Joe Rogan (2:03)

Well, it was definitely a huge problem for the first event.

I don't know how many people downloaded it and did it, but I bet they probably didn't see the number coming. It was a big fight. And those two fights were huge. I mean, first of all, something happened, I think within the last year or so for Max Holloway, where when Max Holloway's face goes up on the screen, people go nuts.

Brendan Schaub (2:27)

Because they know he throws down.

Joe Rogan (2:28)

Yeah, I think it was the Ortega fight. I really think that Ortega fight made him a superstar. I really do.

Brendan Schaub (2:33)

The Aldo ones definitely helped him.

Joe Rogan (2:34)

For sure they did.

Brendan Schaub (2:35)

The back-to-back Aldo ass-whoopens and then Ortega one.

Joe Rogan (2:38)

The thing that was different, though, is Ortega had a big following.

Ortega was the young, beautiful lion with fantastic jujitsu, handsome guy, cool, smooth talker, looks like a champion, fucking everybody up. So he had a lot of fans coming in there, and they went to war, they went to war. And Max came out on top, and I think Max, a lot of those people, and because they were so cool with each other during, before, and after.

Brendan Schaub (3:05)

People loved it.

Joe Rogan (3:05)

Dude, Max is, he loses better than anyone on the fucking planet.

Loses or wins. He just goes, hey, I'm just gonna get better.

Brendan Schaub (3:13)

He doesn't lose a lot.

Joe Rogan (3:14)

He doesn't. No. I mean, he lost to Conor, he lost to Dustin in his very first fight ever.

You know, he was 20 years old.

Brendan Schaub (3:20)

But I also think Max is, because we've always said, I think both of us have been in agreement where, if a guy is cutting a ton of weight and killing himself, go to the next weight class. I've always said that, whether it was Darren Till, whether, you know, Chris Weidman, Luke Rockhold, John Jones, like, dude, go up a weight class, dominate.

And then this is kind of the first time we've seen a guy where it's like, hmm, it's not that easy. Because Max Holley went up, but you could see the power wasn't there. Like, he might have, and he did, but he landed more than Dustin Poirier. But when Dustin landed, you could see that it fucking counted.