JRE MMA Show #49 with Miriam Nakamoto

Joe Rogan (0:02)

Four, three, two, boom, and we're live. Hello, Miriam.

Good to see you. Grab this mic and keep it like a fist from your face. That's a good reference point. Perfect. Perfect.

Miriam Nakamoto (0:18)

Do I just do it like that?

Joe Rogan (0:23)

I'm sad that you can't sell these snacks everywhere, because I know you're working on making these mass produced, but they're fucking fantastic.

Miriam Nakamoto (0:29)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (0:29)

They're very good.

When did you first give me some of these? Like five years ago or some shit?

Miriam Nakamoto (0:33)

2014

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and my knee blew out, I just had surgery, and I needed something to do, so I...

Joe Rogan (0:43)

That was knee number one.

Miriam Nakamoto (0:44)

It was the second one.

Joe Rogan (0:46)

That was the second one.

Miriam Nakamoto (0:48)

And I've had two more since, so I've had four total.

Joe Rogan (0:52)

The life of a world champion Muay Thai kickboxer is not an easy one.

Miriam Nakamoto (0:57)

No, it actually started when I started grappling.

Joe Rogan (0:59)

That's when it started blowing your knee out? Yeah.

Miriam Nakamoto (1:01)

Yeah, no. Muay Thai was fine. I got cracked ribs. I got cut. I got maybe concussions.

Joe Rogan (1:07)

Maybe concussions?

Miriam Nakamoto (1:08)

Really bad, like broke my elbow on somebody's head. Yeah, but no knee stuff. It was the MMA.

Jiu-jitsu.

Joe Rogan (1:17)

Yeah, wrestling and jiu-jitsu are rough on the knees.

Miriam Nakamoto (1:20)

I think this motion, not awesome on the cartilage. It's like a weird motion.

Joe Rogan (1:25)

You mean like hip stuff?

Miriam Nakamoto (1:27)

Knees, when you do like that with your...

Joe Rogan (1:29)

Mm-hmm.

So like on your back, like working your guard, that kind of thing? That's what you think of it?

Miriam Nakamoto (1:35)

Well, I just, yeah, and 20 years of use on this body.

Joe Rogan (1:40)

Well, it does put, it puts weight in weird ways on your knees, too. If someone's trying to pass your guard and they're moving your ankles around stuff.

Miriam Nakamoto (1:49)

You have to swivel with their weight and their violence directed at you. Yeah.

Joe Rogan (1:55)

I saw you getting a bunch of fluid on Instagram shot into there. What is that all about?

Miriam Nakamoto (2:00)

I think it was like orthovisc.

Joe Rogan (2:01)

What is that?

Miriam Nakamoto (2:02)

It did not help.

Joe Rogan (2:03)

No?

Miriam Nakamoto (2:03)

That was always the money.

Joe Rogan (2:04)

It was like a gooey fluid.

Miriam Nakamoto (2:08)

Yeah, it was like padding.

Joe Rogan (2:09)

Oh, is that what the idea is?

Miriam Nakamoto (2:10)

But what was really nice was I got a straight shot of ibuprofen in there. That felt amazing.

Yeah, like three months worth of ibuprofen just shot it right in there.

Joe Rogan (2:18)

Really?

Miriam Nakamoto (2:19)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (2:19)

That shit is so bad for you, though.

Yeah, Dr. Ron DePatrick is the first person that alerted me to it, the increased risk of strokes and heart attack. And then my friend Cam Haynes, who's an ultra marathon runner, he was taking 800 milligrams a day, every day.

SPEAKER_3 (2:41)

Okay, for how long?

Joe Rogan (2:42)

Forever.

Miriam Nakamoto (2:43)

That's a lot.

Joe Rogan (2:43)

That's a lot.

Miriam Nakamoto (2:44)

That's different.

Joe Rogan (2:45)

It is different.

Miriam Nakamoto (2:45)

I just got one super shot.

Joe Rogan (2:47)

Well, he was right. He basically runs almost a marathon a day.

Miriam Nakamoto (2:50)

Yeah, that's crazy.

Joe Rogan (2:51)

Yeah, because he runs these 240 mile races.

So he was having these serious pains. He's like, I need it to get going. So I told him about all the heart attack stuff and the stroke stuff. He's like, fuck. So he gets off of it. All of his inflammation relaxes and calms down. Turns out, what was going on was the ibuprofen severely upsets your gut bacteria. And so when that happens, it causes systemic inflammation, which you then treat with ibuprofen. So he takes out the ibuprofen. All the gut problems go away. All the inflammation goes away. All his hip pains, knee pains, all that shit went away, which is crazy.

I think ibuprofen is great if you do it every, just rarely.

Something's going on.

Miriam Nakamoto (3:39)

You need... What I noticed when he shot my knee, that end of my knee, within the next week, over the course of a couple days, I noticed that I had greater range of motion. So what it made me realize was like, oh, I had a little inflammation in there. Because I kept thinking, I was like, is it the tissue tight?