JRE MMA Show #177 - Protect Ya Neck
The Joe Rogan Experience
April 10, 2026
Joe is joined by mixed martial artists John Rallo, Matt Serra, and Din Thomas.John Rallo owns Shogun Fights and is the owner and head coach at Ground Control Mixed Martial Arts Academy. Serra is a mixed martial artist and host of “UFC Unfiltered” with Jim Norton and “Geeking Out with Matt Serra.
Speakers Joe Rogan, Matt Serra, John Rallo, Din Thomas
TopicsComedy
Joe Rogan (0:01)
Joe Rogan Podcast, checking out The Joe Rogan Experience.
Matt Serra (0:06)
Trained by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.
John Rallo (0:14)
We're back in action.
SPEAKER_5 (0:18)
We're back?
SPEAKER_6 (0:20)
We were just talking, and I saw Rallo. I told Rallo, save this for the air, because Rallo, years ago, shit, this had to be like at least 10 years ago, maybe 20 years ago.
SPEAKER_7 (0:30)
2006, 2007
SPEAKER_6 (0:33)
20 years ago, Rallo calls me up and he says, Tommy Lee wants to meet you. He wants to talk to you about something. I go, okay, sure. So we go to see his concert. That was when he was at Rock and Roll Supernova, the TV show.
SPEAKER_7 (0:43)
That's right.
SPEAKER_6 (0:44)
So he had a TV show.
SPEAKER_7 (0:45)
Was it Long Beach?
SPEAKER_6 (0:46)
Right.
SPEAKER_7 (0:47)
You and Eddie came.
SPEAKER_6 (0:48)
Me and Eddie Bravo came. Then afterwards, first of all, Tommy Lee has the dopest green room. He sets his green room up like a after-hours party. He's got tapestries on the wall and candles and lights. Yeah, you walk in like, damn.
SPEAKER_7 (1:03)
His DJ gear.
SPEAKER_6 (1:04)
Yeah, he doesn't just walk into a cold green room.
SPEAKER_5 (1:07)
I'm lazy.
SPEAKER_6 (1:08)
If I go on the road, I just go, what's your green room? I'll go hang out in there. It doesn't just walk, but he has it set up. Everywhere is calm and relaxing and spiritual. So I meet Tommy, and Tommy wants a fight kid rock in the UFC.
Din Thomas (1:26)
What makes people think they can do this?
SPEAKER_8 (1:28)
It's for Pam Anderson's heart.
SPEAKER_7 (1:29)
Yeah, wait, this is how it started. This is kind of how it started, that was that way with Pam. Like, you know, they both were married to her.
So Tommy and her are always going to be connected because of the kids. So she had split up with kid rock, and kid rock was emailing her, texting her, I guess, you know, still trying to get with her. Tommy is with her, not together, but, you know, they were together that day. And she asked him, you know, you're friends with him. Can you call him and tell him to stop calling me and shit? And Tommy's like, I don't want to get in the middle of that shit. And she's like, you know, please. So he winds up hitting, you know, him up and like, look, dude, you know, I don't really want to make this call, blah, blah, blah. Of course, kid rock took the heat. Fuck you, you know, blah, blah. So they're fucking each other back and forth goes away. Now there was some MTV Awards thing. And actually, let me back up first. We were in Vegas for a New Year's thing. And there was this rumor that kid rock was supposed to come with his bodyguard and like and come to Tommy's room and attack us. So me, my man, chemo, who you know as well, you know, we're sleeping in Tommy's room, hoping they show up. And of course, they go to a different room. They do go to a room, kick a door in. I think totally for-
SPEAKER_6 (2:53)
So they actually went looking for him? For real?
SPEAKER_7 (2:56)
I don't think they went looking for him. I think it was a big publicity stunt. They signed some autographs and they keep it moving. So I'm saying to Tommy, I go, yo dude, I go, fuck him. I go, you should fight him on pay-per-view. Imagine all the money that would make. I go, I'll fight his fucking security guy.
Like we'll make a whole thing of it. He goes, man, that's brilliant. Oh my God. So I go, I go, you know, I'm telling you, I said, you should do, I said, look, either you fight him and you beat him up or he punks out and you win either way. And he's like, he's like, yeah, yeah, I like this. So he talks to his management. Of course, it just goes by the wayside. Well, they're having some MTV Awards shit. Security's not allowed on the floor there. They had their own, like, you know, it was in this casino. They have security for it. While he's sitting in there with Pam, Kid Rock like comes up kind of behind him and pokes him. And Tommy sees him and he goes to stand up and Kid Rock suckers him there.
SPEAKER_8 (3:56)
Oh, he hit him?
SPEAKER_9 (3:56)
Yeah. What?
SPEAKER_8 (3:57)
And I'm home.
SPEAKER_7 (3:58)
My phone is getting blown the fuck up. Like what happened with Tommy? What happened with Tommy? I'm like, I don't fucking know. Like I'm not with him right now. And I get a call, I swear like 30 minutes later and it's Tommy and he's going fuck him. He goes, I'm done with that motherfucker. I want to fight him. I'm going to fucking fight him now. He goes, I want you to train me. I go, he goes, I'm going to move you out. I go, no, you're moving to me. I go, we're not going to be out here with all your little fucking ass kissers. I said, if you're going to do it, you're really going to do it.
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