JRE MMA Show #154 with Matt Serra, Din Thomas & John Rallo

Joe Rogan (0:04)

The Joe Rogan Experience. Trained by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.

Matt Serra (0:12)

I'm ready when you are.

Joe Rogan (0:13)

Okay, let's keep... Matt's already unrolled.

John Rallo (0:15)

He ain't unrolled, man.

Din Thomas (0:17)

We gotta get it going.

John Rallo (0:18)

I feel like we missed it already.

Joe Rogan (0:20)

Yeah, we missed the joy that is Matt Serra. We need a name for this order of unruly gentlemen.

We need a name for us, Matt.

Matt Serra (0:31)

I wanna think about it.

Joe Rogan (0:32)

This is Matt's first Zin, by the way.

And it's a six milligram. That's a heavy dose.

Matt Serra (0:37)

But I'm a caffeine guy.

Joe Rogan (0:39)

That's a lot like caffeine, but even more. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Matt Serra (0:43)

I seen it at 7-Eleven. I know Tucker Carlson takes it.

Joe Rogan (0:46)

He loves them. He got so excited that I had one, he's like, Why did you have them, too?

John Rallo (0:50)

Why did you put them into that seat?

Matt Serra (0:52)

It's not a dip, though.

Joe Rogan (0:54)

No, it's just a little pouch.

It's not actual tobacco. It's just the nicotine chemical. Nicotine is a chemical that is neuroprotective. It shows there's been studies that have done that it shows some sort of a connection with helping ward off Alzheimer's, I believe. I'm not sure if that's true. I might have made that up. Nicotine? I might have made that up.

Yes. Nicotine as a chemical is not bad for you. What's bad for you is the delivery system of cigarettes, particularly cigarettes if you buy like cigarettes with chemicals in them. So there's like, there's those, what are those, American Spirits, what are they called, American something? Spirits?

Joe Rogan (1:36)

That's like a marketing.

Joe Rogan (1:37)

I don't think that's true. They have shit in them, too?

Joe Rogan (1:39)

Of course, they're cigarettes.

Matt Serra (1:41)

No, but I think it's different.

Joe Rogan (1:42)

Interesting.

John Rallo (1:42)

I thought they were just supposed to be paper and the tobacco.

Matt Serra (1:44)

Yeah, I don't think it is.

Joe Rogan (1:45)

Oh, those liars. Okay, nicotine for Alzheimer's disease.

There's no evidence from randomized controlled trials to support the use of nicotine as a treatment for Alzheimer's disease. So what was the thing that wasn't there something about a connection between the way nicotine works and some sort of a, there's something I read.

Matt Serra (2:05)

My thing is, if I start with the nicotine-

Joe Rogan (2:07)

Go back to that, please, Jamie.

Will you just say, it says, while nicotine itself doesn't cause dementia, the act of smoking cigarettes may be linked to an increased risk of developing dementia as you age. The harmful substances in cigarette smokes can lead to inflammation, factors linked to the onset of Alzheimer's disease. I know that nicotine is a medication they use sometimes for heart patients, so find out what that is.

Fuck that is. My thing is, the cigarette-

John Rallo (2:31)

Probably a Basio dilator.

Joe Rogan (2:32)

Did you ever see that movie with Russell Crowe, the insider?

John Rallo (2:35)

Yes.

Joe Rogan (2:35)

I think it's about the dude who works for the cigarette companies. He's a chemist, and he's talking about all the shit they throw in the cigarettes to make them super hyper addictive.

Din Thomas (2:44)

So it's actually not the nicotine that makes it addictive?

Joe Rogan (2:46)

Well nicotine is addictive as well. Nicotine is addictive as well.

Matt Serra (2:50)

That's my question.

Joe Rogan (2:50)

And then they just super juice it up according to this movie.

Matt Serra (2:53)

Before you get me addicted to these things, if I put this in my mouth, am I going to- If I start it and I'm going to-

Joe Rogan (3:03)

Hey Matt Serra, I do nicotine.

Matt Serra (3:05)

If I'm an everyday, what is this called again?

Joe Rogan (3:08)

Zin.

Matt Serra (3:09)

If I'm a Zin guy, if I stop it, am I going to be like-

Joe Rogan (3:12)

No, I stopped it the other day for two days. I said I want to see what it's like.

Matt Serra (3:16)

And?

Joe Rogan (3:16)

Nothing.

Matt Serra (3:18)

Did you wait three days? What about four days?

Joe Rogan (3:22)

I didn't have an itch, no.

John Rallo (3:23)

I would think you would have got it earlier instead of later.

Joe Rogan (3:26)

I like them.

Matt Serra (3:27)

Are you an everyday Ziner?

Joe Rogan (3:29)

Yeah, not every day. I take days off. But the thing is, I don't know if that's my biology.