JRE MMA Show #150 with Daniel Cormier

Joe Rogan (0:04)

The Joe Rogan Experience.

Daniel Cormier (0:13)

I got a friend named Zach Esposito, and he used to do that. We would get ndone with practice, and every technique had to be perfect.

Even getting undressed and then backdressed was, this dude would sometimes get undressed three times.

Joe Rogan (0:26)

What?

Daniel Cormier (0:27)

He would get dressed.

Maybe he'd put something on in the wrong order. I don't know what he would do. But then he would take it off, and he would do it again, and he would take it off. And then if he was drilling, every move. It's like, I don't know what that disease is called.

Joe Rogan (0:40)

Obsessive compulsive disorder.

Daniel Cormier (0:41)

That, that. It was with everything, though. And he became an NCAA champion.

Joe Rogan (0:44)

Doesn't it make sense, though, that those kind of things, if you could channel them into something positive?

Like, if you're a maniac, and you could, say if you're a compulsive gambler, you can't stop gambling. You just got to get out there and place bets. You got to place bets. There's guys like that. If they could channel that same energy into something else, like jujitsu.

Daniel Cormier (1:03)

Could you imagine an athlete that's like that? Michael Jordan.

Joe Rogan (1:08)

I'm sure he's like that.

Daniel Cormier (1:09)

For as compulsive of a gambler as he is, that was his approach to basketball. So nobody could be greater.

Same thing.

Joe Rogan (1:16)

Same thing. Exact same thing. It's just one of them is dangerous.

One of them will fuck up your life, and one of them will make you the goat.

Daniel Cormier (1:21)

Will make you the goat, but the other side of it is it don't turn off. And that's the fucked up part.

Joe Rogan (1:28)

That's the fucked up part.

Daniel Cormier (1:29)

It doesn't turn off. Having that as a thing, and then the competitiveness never turns off.

It drives you crazy.

Joe Rogan (1:36)

Well, that's why Tyson didn't work out for years. Mike did my podcast twice, and the first time he did it, Mike was like heavier. He would smoke a weed all the time. He was so chill. It's like, wow. It's like Mike Tyson is like such a sweet guy.

And then Mike Tyson signed up for the Roy Jones fight. And the next time he came in, he was 225 Forearms were jacked, and he was intense. And I made a decision to make the table wider on my podcast, dude, because I was so nervous being that close to him.

I was like, I gotta have a little, just to separate from really intense people so I can collect my thoughts.

Daniel Cormier (2:12)

Yeah. He tapped back into that thing.

He had suppressed it. When you saw me, he was friendly, and he was nice, and he was smoking.

Joe Rogan (2:19)

He was still friendly. He was still cool as fuck. But this was the real Mike Tyson.

Daniel Cormier (2:24)

That's the guy. Because he tapped back into that monster.

Joe Rogan (2:26)

He found it.

Daniel Cormier (2:27)

Because you know, you gotta have the monster.

Joe Rogan (2:30)

You have to.

Daniel Cormier (2:30)

In order to be a world champion in any type of combat sport, you have to have that monster.

Joe Rogan (2:36)

Yeah.

Daniel Cormier (2:37)

A legit monster inside of you that doesn't really live in the real world. Because in the real world, he doesn't work. Right. In the real world, if you can't put that monster away at times, you don't work in life.

Joe Rogan (2:50)

You're in trouble all the time.

Daniel Cormier (2:51)

You're in trouble all the time.

Joe Rogan (2:52)

Yeah.

Daniel Cormier (2:53)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (2:53)

But that same monster, if you can control that motherfucker, then you're Mike Tyson.

Daniel Cormier (2:57)

You're Mike Tyson. But then that's why he would see him skirt the line, right? Yes. When he's talking to the reporter, that reporter, that is still one of the craziest things I've ever witnessed. When he was on the stage and the reporter said something and Mike started talking about, if we were in jail, I would do this.

Joe Rogan (3:15)

Oh, that's right.

Daniel Cormier (3:16)

Oh my God.

Joe Rogan (3:17)

I'd fuck you till you love me.

Daniel Cormier (3:18)

I'd fuck you till you love me.

Joe Rogan (3:21)

I mean, what?

Daniel Cormier (3:23)

What!?

Joe Rogan (3:24)

Oh my God!

Daniel Cormier (3:25)

But imagine that guy in that state trying to operate in the world with normal people like us.

Joe Rogan (3:31)