JRE MMA Show #147 with Sean O'Malley & Tim Welch

Joe Rogan (0:04)

The Joe Rogan Experience.

Joe Rogan (0:13)

Boys, when we did the first one together, was it like five years ago?

Sean O'Malley (0:17)

Yeah, I think it was 2017, right? Or 2018? Yeah, I was two and in the UFC. I was just coming off the Andre Soccer Mom fight where I broke my foot.

Yeah, I was 23

Joe Rogan (0:30)

Yeah, that was just after you broke your foot.

Sean O'Malley (0:32)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (0:34)

And now here you are, the fucking champ of the world.

Sean O'Malley (0:37)

We did it.

Joe Rogan (0:38)

Living in a dream.

Sean O'Malley (0:39)

It's crazy because that whole fight week, I always take a lot of naps fight week, especially because it was on the East Coast and we were trying to stay up late.

And I would have crazy vivid dreams, not necessarily about the fight, but just really vivid dreams. And so after the fight, I just felt like I was kind of in one of those dreams. I'm like, there's no way that went out, that played out perfect. There's no way that played out literally how I wanted to play out. So for a while, I kept thinking like, I'm gonna wake up in my bed and still have to go out there and do that. But I haven't woke up from a nap yet, so we're still rolling.

Joe Rogan (1:13)

Well, it makes you wonder what dreams really are.

It's so weird that we just accept that we close our eyes every night and scenarios take place that don't really take place and they seem super vivid and then weird things happen to them and then you wake up and you're like, oh, that wasn't real. But we just accept that there's many times where I've been in a lucid dream or many times I've been in a dream that felt so real.

Sean O'Malley (1:40)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (1:40)

Like, what, you're like, what's going on in our heads?

Sean O'Malley (1:44)

Probably a lot during a sober October for you too, because I noticed when I quit smoking weed in camp, like when I get closer to the fight, my dreams are so fucking vivid.

Joe Rogan (1:52)

Yeah.

Sean O'Malley (1:52)

It's kind of scary. It's like a snapshot of another dimension. I'm like, could that possibly be us in another dimension witnessing our life play out some other way?

Joe Rogan (2:01)

It could be that what you're doing is like peeking. You're like, every night you like peek into some other dimension and then pop back up in the morning when you wake up. That's one of the theories about DMT, it's some sort of a chemical gateway to the next dimension or the next realm of existence. And that when the lights go out and then your brain floods with that stuff, your consciousness uses that chemical as a gateway.

Sean O'Malley (2:28)

Yeah, we've never done DMT. I've told myself I want to do DMT, IOS, that stuff after fighting. Because right now I have a mindset to, I want to be world champ, I want to be the greatest, I want to kill in the cage.

But I feel like if I do something like that, maybe I switch that around. I want to wait.

Joe Rogan (2:45)

Yeah, it might be a problem. It might become loving.

Sean O'Malley (2:47)

Yeah, that's literally the issue.

I still have that fucking want to kill. Not as strong as Strickland want to kill, but like in the cage, like dominate.

Joe Rogan (2:55)

Yeah, dominate.

Tim Welch (2:56)

When we were talking to Dana too, he said Cheeto has recently started doing mushrooms when he was training and stuff. I wonder if that has anything to do, yeah, I wasn't there. I wonder if that has anything to do with his performances versus Sanhagen and stuff. Just look stuck in the mud.

Joe Rogan (3:10)

I think it's just Sanhagen.

Sean O'Malley (3:12)

That's what I think. Sanhagen was just way faster.

Joe Rogan (3:15)

He's so diverse. He's got so much going on. I love watching that guy fight because when he's going after folks, he's given them so many looks. There's so much going on.

And you don't, the patterns are non-existent.

I'm not sure they exist, but I'm not picking them up. You think he's gonna kick, he shoots. You think he's gonna punch, he kicks. There's movement to the side. You think he's gonna engage and he doesn't.

Sean O'Malley (3:39)

Yeah, his last three fights too, he's been really wrestling a lot. So you gotta think like, cause I don't know, I could fight, I mean, there's a couple different people I could fight next, but like, thinking about fighting Corey, it's like, okay, is he gonna be turning to that wrestler? Is he gonna wanna strike or is he gonna mix it up? I'm assuming, you know, going into a fight with Corey, he's gonna wanna mix it up a bit, but yeah, it's interesting.