JRE MMA Show #14 with Matt Brown

Joe Rogan (0:01)

Four, three, two, one, boom, and we're live. What's up, brother? How are you?

Matt Brown (0:06)

Very, very good.

Joe Rogan (0:07)

Thanks for doing this, man. I'm very excited to have you in here.

Matt Brown (0:09)

I'm honored to be here, man. I was just thinking about this the other day, actually. I was like, the fucking people that had been on the show, man.

Joe Rogan (0:18)

Yeah, I think about it sometimes, too. Freaks me out.

Matt Brown (0:21)

Sam Harris, James Hetfield. Yeah, I was thinking about all the people, man. I was like, how do I compete with these guys?

Joe Rogan (0:30)

Just be Matt Brown.

Matt Brown (0:32)

I mean, I could beat all their asses, but.

Joe Rogan (0:35)

Well, in certain situations, that's all that counts.

Matt Brown (0:39)

The situations that I thrive in.

Joe Rogan (0:40)

Exactly.

So you were retired, and now you're not. Now you just signed to fight Carlos Condit?

Matt Brown (0:46)

You got it.

Joe Rogan (0:47)

Damn, that's a good fight. I like that.

Matt Brown (0:50)

Yeah.

Joe Rogan (0:51)

I think Carlos needed to fight back, too. That fight with Neil Magni. He looked like he was suffering through some ring rust.

He looked a little bit timing.

Matt Brown (0:59)

I've talked to a lot of people about that, because that's the first thing that always comes up, right, is how he came back and looked in that fight. I've trained with Neil a lot, man. I'll tell you, Neil can shut a fucking game down right away. Yeah, he's very good. Yeah, we can't take away from Neil, man.

Carlos didn't seem to show any sense of urgency either, though, so I think it's both sides, but I think he's also going to be looking for redemption with me.

Joe Rogan (1:25)

Yeah, I think so, too.

Matt Brown (1:26)

Yeah, he wanted to come back right away, actually. They actually asked me to fight.

It would have been like six weeks notice.

Joe Rogan (1:32)

What's the longest you've ever taken off?

Matt Brown (1:36)

After I fought Cowboy, got knocked the fuck out and took a year off and fought Diego.

Joe Rogan (1:41)

So what is it like coming back after a year?

Matt Brown (1:46)

It felt natural to me personally.

Joe Rogan (1:47)

To you? Yeah. So it's different for different people, right?

Matt Brown (1:51)

Yeah, someone was talking to me about this the other day, ring rust, and I was like, you know, everybody's different, man. Every single person is going to react a little differently. And I think also when you have someone, you know, John Danner was talking about the different types of fighters, right? I think he just grouped three different types of fighters, like a violence guy, a tactical guy, and something else. Well, I think it's going to, I think there's more types of fighters than what he went through, but there's, I think it's going to affect every single type of person differently.

You know, and I fought, like I fought, for instance, like I fought a much more tactical fight against Diego. It wasn't, I mean, you could, you could easily go in with Diego and just go to fucking war with him, right?

Joe Rogan (2:31)

Killer Melendez style.

Matt Brown (2:32)

Exactly. He's totally down for that. I mean, that's what Diego is, you know, he will wake right up and go for that, right?

I was like, man, I'm better than him. Let's just be tactical. And I think that was part of why it helped. Now, now I think someone that goes in with a more violent style, which I've done many times in my life, I think that's a bit more complicated because there's a lot more timing and reaction in that. Whereas the strategy, you have a very clear path to victory. You know exactly what you got to do. You're just going in there and just, you know, connecting the dots when you get in there.

Joe Rogan (3:06)

And staying on the plan.

Matt Brown (3:08)

Exactly. Yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan (3:09)

Now, when you get a guy like Diego, though, that temptation has got to be always there, right? Because he's so willing.

Matt Brown (3:15)

Well, if it's necessary...

Joe Rogan (3:17)

Because you love that kind of fighting. Yeah. That's one of the reasons why you're so loved. Like, there's never been a Matt Brown fight ever that's boring. There's a lot of guys that have, because of styles, because of whatever, they've had fights that weren't very crowd pleasing.

But your style has always been do or die, seek and destroy. That's one of the reasons why people love you.