JRE MMA Show #130 with Will Harris

Joe Rogan (0:04)

The Joe Rogan Experience.

Three years later and thicker hair than ever. Look at your hair, it's thicker than ever.

Will Harris (0:18)

Maybe that's how you intro it, with the beard. No, I'm just saying.

Joe Rogan (0:21)

We're rolling right now, so let's go with that.

Will Harris (0:24)

Three years later, Joe.

Joe Rogan (0:25)

Yeah, three years later.

Will Harris (0:27)

Yeah, man.

Joe Rogan (0:27)

You're the best, man. Nobody makes better MMA documentaries and films than you. You are the best.

Will Harris (0:33)

I appreciate that.

Joe Rogan (0:34)

You're the best. You get deep into it. You fucking, you cover everything.

It's like the shots you choose. It's everything.

Will Harris (0:42)

More work to do, though. More work to do.

Joe Rogan (0:45)

More work to do, but you're the best at it, man. Your shit's the most compelling.

Will Harris (0:49)

Well, you know, like looking back on the journey now, because it's like the five year anniversary of just creating Anatomy Of A Fighter, my vision for it was always to humanize fighters. That's all it was. It was, you know, before I, I spent a year around fighters before I decided to channel.

You know, I used to hang out with Kamau on them when they were 40,000 followers on Instagram. Nobody knew who they was. And to me, I just found that weird that it was no content on these guys that were the best athletes in the world like the way I would want to see it. Obviously, the promotions always do their little pieces on fighters and promotional packs and stuff like that. But it wasn't an ongoing series like HBO 24-7 with boxers. And I was just like, you know what, I'll do it. And basically, I just put all my eggs in one basket.

I didn't think I'd be around fighting this long. But after a few years into it, I was like, fuck it, I was meant to do this. And I'm happy that I'm still here. I remember when we was on here last time, he was just like, figure it out. Just keep doing it.

Keep growing it, and here we are.

Joe Rogan (1:55)

Well, there's such an opening for that, because they're the most interesting athletes, because it's such a difficult thing to do, emotionally, psychologically. There's so much involved in it. And then when you see behind the scenes, the struggle with weight cut, dealing with injuries, dealing with training scenarios and coaching and all the shit they have to go through, just to get to the cage and to have the cage door shut is a fucking miracle.

When you think about what they have to go through in training, I mean, everything you do is designed to break a body. And then you have to practice that. So you're practicing wrestling. That breaks bodies. Kicking, that breaks body. Punching breaks bodies. Elbows, knees, all that shit. And then you're scrambling. You're always like in the risk of injury. And then you've got to dehydrate the fuck out of yourself to make weight.

Will Harris (2:43)

Well, it's what Kamal said on this podcast. It went so viral about it. It was a relief because every single day he woke up, it was this streak, this Anderson Silver streak. It was this pound for pound number one, the champion, everybody gunning for you. And I think me being able to talk to him every day, I see the pressures that he have. I see the people asking him for money and needing him for this and needing him for that.

You know, I don't know if he wanted to say this, but basically he was just like, you know, after he lost, like even some of the sponsors are not around no more.

Joe Rogan (3:19)

Which is crazy.

Will Harris (3:20)

It's just crazy.

Joe Rogan (3:21)

Which is crazy.

Will Harris (3:21)

He's still the number four pound for pound fighter in the world. He was just dominating the fight. You got head kicked, lost in the last minute.

And now Fighters is like, oh, we got a new champion, let's go over here.

Joe Rogan (3:31)

All those sponsors can go fuck themselves. If you would drop Kamaru Usman because of one kick knockout in a sport where, that's like dropping LeBron if someone dunked on him. Like no, it's over. What are you talking about? Like this is what the sport is. That is the consequences and those consequences are available even to the greatest champions. If you get head kicked, that's it.

That's the button. You get head kicked by Leon Edwards, that's the button. And everybody would go. I would go, you would go.