JRE MMA Show #120 with Jim Miller

Joe Rogan (0:04)

The Joe Rogan Experience. You got a cookbook?

Jim Miller (0:14)

Yeah, come out with a fucking cookbook.

Joe Rogan (0:16)

Are you a good cook?

Jim Miller (0:18)

I try.

Joe Rogan (0:18)

Legitimately?

I see you cook on Instagram. Looks like you're into it.

Jim Miller (0:21)

I am, yeah. Food has always been a pretty big part of my life.

I grew up in a family of cooks. I actually consider myself probably the worst cook in my family.

Joe Rogan (0:33)

Don't say that before you're selling your book.

Jim Miller (0:34)

I know, I know. But I'm still pretty good. Like, both my brother Dan and my other brother Michael are both, they're phenomenal.

Joe Rogan (0:42)

Your brother Dan has the nastiest guillotine finish I've ever seen in all my years of watching MMA. The one in the IFL where you had that dude pinned up against the cage. It looks like his head is gone. It looks like it's disappeared. Like, his head is, it's like, the way it bends over, it's like, folks, it's like an elbow.

Jim Miller (1:00)

It doesn't make any sense.

Joe Rogan (1:01)

It doesn't make any sense. It's sideways.

Jim Miller (1:03)

I didn't see that.

I was on, we were on the opposite side of the ring. I didn't see that until the next day. I was, like, scrolling through some pictures on one of the forums, and I was like, holy shit.

Joe Rogan (1:12)

Here, watch this here. Let's see, look, let's see if they can, show it from the beginning again, please.

Okay, here it is, I'll show it.

Jim Miller (1:20)

Yeah, folds him in half.

Joe Rogan (1:22)

No, when he stands up, see, he's still fighting, like, right there, like there. What the fuck, man?

Jim Miller (1:27)

It shouldn't work, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan (1:28)

How is that possible? Look at that, look at that.

Jim Miller (1:30)

It looks like it's disconnected.

Joe Rogan (1:31)

How is that possible that a neck can do that? He's literally hearing his own heartbeat, right?

Jim Miller (1:39)

I'd be dead.

Joe Rogan (1:39)

I think that's the craziest guillotine I've ever seen in my life, which is amazing because think of how many guilletines you've seen, right? I've never seen anybody do that. I mean, that's a wild guillotine.

Jim Miller (1:53)

It is.

Joe Rogan (1:54)

The IFL was weird because there was good fighters and good fights, but the concept was so goofy that people were like, what, there's a team?

And your team wins? It's like they were doing it like wrestling teams, right? It was kind of like you could win your match, but your team could still lose, and there was team names.

Jim Miller (2:16)

Yeah, and I think of other couple promotions have tried to do something similar, and it just doesn't seem to work in MMA.

Joe Rogan (2:24)

I don't like what the PFL does either, where they have point systems, and you get a point for more points for finishes, and more points for this, and so you're ahead. It's weird. I can't pay attention to all that.

Jim Miller (2:37)

Just let him?

Joe Rogan (2:38)

I think it's like they see how people are really into stats, like rebounds, and he's got most assists, and this and that. There's a lot of guys that are like numbers guys. They can tell you, this guy ran for this amount of yards, and this and that. You know what I mean? They love those statistics.

But in MMA, that's just like...

Jim Miller (2:57)

Yeah, people just want to see us punching each other's heads in. That's really what it is.

Joe Rogan (3:03)

You're overcomplicating what's essentially the purest sport.

It's so pure. I mean, you could show an MMA fight to someone who has no fucking idea what's going on, and they're going, oh, my God. Like, you show them cricket, and they're like, why?

Jim Miller (3:18)

Yeah, what's the point? What's the goal?

Joe Rogan (3:19)

Why do you have a paddle? Like, what's happening here? How does this work? You know?

Jim Miller (3:23)

Why is he throwing the ball like that?

Joe Rogan (3:24)

Right, or baseball. Like, baseball is American pastime, but if it wasn't, and someone tried to invent it today, people would be like, get the fuck out of here with this game.

Jim Miller (3:32)

Too complicated.

Joe Rogan (3:33)

It's just, what is going on here? He's stealing bases?

He gets to steal bases? Like, what's happening?

Jim Miller (3:39)

Why nine? Why nine innings? Why nine dudes?

Joe Rogan (3:43)

And what's going on with the pitcher with his fingers? What's he doing there? The catcher and the pitcher communicating in some weird way? You know?