JRE MMA Show #107 with Georges St-Pierre

**Georges St-Pierre** (0:04)
The Joe Rogan Experience.

**Georges St-Pierre** (0:17)
Do you have something, times that you have two guests during a day?

**Joe Rogan** (0:20)
It's rare, but I did it once last week and then today.

**Georges St-Pierre** (0:26)
That burns you?

**Joe Rogan** (0:27)
Nah, it's just talking. Yeah.

**Georges St-Pierre** (0:32)
It's insane.

**Joe Rogan** (0:33)
Why is it insane?

**Georges St-Pierre** (0:34)
Because sometimes I can train all day.
Yeah. But if I do something like this, like an autograph signing or any things that require more, I would say meet and greets and stuff like that, that take more out of me than something physical like a training.

**Joe Rogan** (0:56)
That's just because you're accustomed to training all the time. It's like everything else. Like the more accustomed to it you are, the easier it is.

**Georges St-Pierre** (1:03)
Man. Anyway, you look fantastic.

**Joe Rogan** (1:06)
You do too.

**Georges St-Pierre** (1:07)
You haven't aged a bit. You're like wine. You get better with age.

**Joe Rogan** (1:10)
I like the frosted tips, man. What are you doing?

**Georges St-Pierre** (1:12)
Change my style. When you get older, you try to look younger. When you're younger, you try to look older.

**Joe Rogan** (1:19)
Right. That's true. Like young guys try to grow beards.

**Georges St-Pierre** (1:22)
That's right.

**Joe Rogan** (1:22)
They'll let it go.

**Georges St-Pierre** (1:23)
I just shaved it. I had Lex Freeman podcast yesterday.

**Joe Rogan** (1:27)
Yes.

**Georges St-Pierre** (1:28)
And I told myself, you know what? It will look weird if I appears on both podcasts in Austin with the same style. You know, it's better that I shave. So when they put it on on the social media, at least it's kind of a different look.

**Joe Rogan** (1:42)
So I saw with Lex, you wore the suit and tie just like him.

**Georges St-Pierre** (1:45)
Men in black style. That's right.

**Joe Rogan** (1:47)
Nice. Reservoir dogs. Yes.

**Georges St-Pierre** (1:49)
Look at that.

**Joe Rogan** (1:51)
Look at you, too. I love Lex.
He's such a great guy.

**Georges St-Pierre** (1:55)
He's amazing.
I really enjoyed talking to guys like this because you don't meet people like this every day. He's so educated, so smart.

**Joe Rogan** (2:04)
Yes. But also a martial artist.

**Georges St-Pierre** (2:06)
I agree.

**Joe Rogan** (2:07)
Yeah.

**Georges St-Pierre** (2:08)
That's right. He says that he was a big fan. He was kind of intimidated. I said, I'm intimidating talking to you, Lex, because I cannot teach you anything.
You know, like you can teach me stuff. I can learn from you. You cannot, you know, in regards of perhaps martial art. Yes. But in terms of life, I'm like, in terms of knowledge, you can teach me so much more than I can do.

**Joe Rogan** (2:29)
It's true. If you talk to him about artificial intelligence and AI and machine learning and everything like, oh, bro, yesterday we went deep in the rabbit hole.

**Georges St-Pierre** (2:37)
We we, you know, like in your podcast, sometimes you curves go, you go in the field with Lex yesterday. We went in the right field, like far away.

**Joe Rogan** (2:45)
Would you discuss?

**Georges St-Pierre** (2:46)
Man, at one point, I was the one interviewing him because I'm curious, the podcast took another turn, like 180 degree. I was the one interviewing him because I'm so curious. You know, when I meet someone like him, I like I take advantage of it. You know, like it's I think he likes it. And I ask him about what he thinks about free will.
If he thinks at one point, hey, I will be could be a potential threat for humanity.

**Joe Rogan** (3:12)
And what do you think about that?

**Georges St-Pierre** (3:14)
He actually changed my mind quite a bit on the subject.

**Joe Rogan** (3:18)
Did you think it could be a threat? Now you don't?

**Georges St-Pierre** (3:21)
No, on free will. Because I knew I never like before I met Lex, like yesterday, before that, I thought that free will was just an illusion and everything is a result of causality. Right.

**Joe Rogan** (3:37)
Right. Determinism.

**Georges St-Pierre** (3:38)
Determinism. That's right. A lot of people don't know what that's called determinism.
But Lex came up with a like very good argument. And now I am not so sure anymore.

**Joe Rogan** (3:49)
I think both things are true. I think it's like many things involving human beings. There's not an absolute in one side or the other.
For sure, free will is a thing because we both know about discipline. We both know how difficult it is. Like, you know more than anybody how difficult it is when you're in like a full training camp and you're exhausted, but you know you have the work that you have to do. And there's some people that will find a way out of that work.