Jet Fans Demand "Pat on the Back" for Classy Treatment of Giants

Craig Carton (0:00)

Why not? Metallica on a Wednesday, yeah!

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Johnny Harbaugh is going to talk about 515, they're telling me now. So as soon as we get that audio, we'll bring it to you. And here's the interesting thing about it. Other than him just giving us more information that we already know, or at least confirming officially what we already know, and maybe adding a couple little nuggets to it, like when's the surgery going to be, what's the prognosis, all that stuff that he gets from the medical team. The real questions you have now for the Giants are more about Thomas and Burns. Like what's the expectation? Did they practice today? Do you think they're going to play on Sunday? Now, he's not going to tell us if they're playing or not. No. Because of the competitive advantage stuff. But it'd be interesting to find out if either of those two guys practice. Well, I'm assuming they did not practice today.

Chris McMonigle (0:59)

I did come across your favorite way to get information.

Craig Carton (1:02)

Ian Rappaport?

Chris McMonigle (1:03)

Adam Schefter.

Craig Carton (1:04)

Or Jordan Schultz, maybe?

Chris McMonigle (1:05)

Adam Schefter.

Chris McMonigle (1:06)

Or maybe Adam Schefter. Who is the one I saw?

Chris McMonigle (1:07)

Maybe, whatever.

Craig Carton (1:08)

I saw Adam Schefter. I guess he's on the Giants payroll, so go ahead.

Chris McMonigle (1:12)

Giants left tackle Andrew Thomas' groin slash abductor injury. That he suffered Monday night vs. the Rams is not considered serious.

Craig Carton (1:21)

Good.

Chris McMonigle (1:21)

And he has a chance to return Sunday vs. the Titans.

Craig Carton (1:25)

Okay, that's positive. That means he has a chance to not return.

Chris McMonigle (1:28)

I don't believe anything until Sunday. If he plays Sunday, then he plays Sunday.

Craig Carton (1:34)

And to be fair, you got burned on Monday.

Chris McMonigle (1:37)

I got burned on Monday.

Craig Carton (1:39)

We all did.

Chris McMonigle (1:39)

I got burned Monday.

Chris McMonigle (1:40)

And that was Joe Shane's doing.

Chris McMonigle (1:42)

Joe Shane and the coach.

Craig Carton (1:43)

Yes.

Chris McMonigle (1:44)

Again, he didn't come out and say, Jackson Darts fine, but the question was asked about the serious nature of the injury. While deflecting, he said, clear as day.

Well, but you appear to be right that we have avoided the worst of it.

Craig Carton (1:57)

He did say that.

Chris McMonigle (1:57)

That's what he said. So the coach said it, the GM said it, not just the Adam Schefters of the world.

The New York Giants, Monday night, told us that it's most likely not a devastating injury.

Craig Carton (2:11)

Twice.

Chris McMonigle (2:12)

At halftime, Joe Shane said it, postgame, the coach said it.

Chris McMonigle (2:15)

So excuse me if I was in my feels when that news hit yesterday. I don't know how else to do it.

Craig Carton (2:19)

You know the good thing here, for two guys at the Giants fan base who are concerned might not get along and maybe we're going to be looking for a new GM, it seems like they're very much aligned on misinformation. Because they both had it wrong.

Chris McMonigle (2:32)

Again, there's a difference. Misinformation is a term where you specifically give incorrect information to mislead someone. They were just incorrect in their initial thought process.

Chris McMonigle (2:45)

Or they lied. Why would they lie? That's a great question.

Chris McMonigle (2:48)

To come out the next day and say, oops, and look stupid?

Craig Carton (2:53)

I mean, we don't know for a fact that they didn't lie. We know that the information they gave us wasn't accurate.

Chris McMonigle (2:59)

Correct. They were wrong.

Chris McMonigle (3:00)

There is a difference between lying and being wrong. I think being wrong is worse than lying. They were cavalier with their wrongness.

Craig Carton (3:07)

That's fair as well.

Chris McMonigle (3:08)

They should not have been so cavalier with information that they could not have been positive about, because the information turned out to be incorrect. So they were not positive, because you can't be positive about wrong information. So before the imaging, they should have just went, zip it. Instead, they gave us incorrect information. And not on purpose, mind you. Not on purpose, nor so that is not a lie.

They were just wrong.

Craig Carton (3:36)

I think being wrong is worse.

I don't know. I think being wrong is worse. Because it's a level of incompetence when you're wrong. And you don't know what you're talking about. And you put it out there. Every GM's job is to lie to us. I get that. Coaches lie to us.