Jarvis Landry and Leonard Fournette team up on 4th and South Podcast, reveal dark times after NFL, identity without ball, family, mental health struggles, LSU and finding their voice in sports media.

SPEAKER_1 (0:00)

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Ryan Clark (0:30)

You know I love it any time a boot boy rolls through, and today we have two of Louisiana's finest, the legendary Leonard Fournette and former Pro Bowl wide out Jarvis Landry, the duo behind 4th and South. The boys have ventured into podcasting, and they found a formula that works. Lenny has never been one to bite his tongue, and then there's Jarvis, a measured, thoughtful, critical thinker. I mean, it's a perfect mix. This conversation spans decades, from the lives of two five-star high school recruits, one of whom was even compared to LeBron James, and some may laugh, but there was truth to that. And we take it all the way back to Death Valley and college life and what it meant to represent LSU. Both men felt like they had more in the tank when their playing days came to an end, but the transition looked different for each. Jarvis opens up about the challenges of moving on to the next chapter while Lenny shares how he was able to get through it. We get into everything, regrets, wishes, adversities, triumphs, Lenny explains what went wrong in Buffalo his last year, why Jarvis reflects on that final season with the New Orleans Saints and they share their approach to work and life, the way they live and what's next for both of them. We even got into who they were on air. Jarvis takes a more chill, laid back approach while Lenny addresses all smoke and he tells us why he agreed to pop up on Speak Easy. But one of my favorite parts of the conversation was talking about the dogs bred in the bayou, where their mentality comes from and why it doesn't sit well with everyone. Bruh, this one was a blast and even when the conversation got deep, we still loved it. There's plenty of football, plenty of laughs and some real perspective along the way. So sit back and enjoy this one as The Pivot welcomes 4th and South hosts, Leonard Fournette and Jarvis Landry.

Jarvis Landry (2:48)

Since Ben, since Ben.

Ryan Clark (2:50)

Been a damn superstar since 6th grade.

Leonard Fournette (2:52)

Hell yeah. I'm trying to make it, bro.

Ryan Clark (2:54)

This man dressed like New Orleans, New York, LA, all at one time.

Leonard Fournette (2:58)

If you're at LSU and anybody needed some temps, they know to come find me, bro. Closet full of them.

Ryan Clark (3:04)

Go to. Man, welcome to the show, Jarvis Landry, Leonard Fournette. This is Fred Taylor, Channing Crowder, Ryan Clark, Pivot fam. Thank y'all for pivoting with us. These are the hosts of 4th and South, but more than anything, man, my little brothers, man, just happy to be with y'all, happy to see you. It's been a long time. It's been too long. I just want to know, what is it like working with a hater?

Can we work with one? You know what I'm saying? I just want to know, what is it like every time y'all hop on the microphone, he hatin on somebody?

Jarvis Landry (3:33)

No, it's great. It's great. I just sit back and watch him do his thing, man. That's kind of like the Leonard of it all. You know what I mean?

He's a star for a reason, no matter what he touched, no matter what he put his hands on. So, you know, it's a joy, it's a privilege working with him, man.

Leonard Fournette (3:47)

Listen, I don't call it hatin, because guess what?

When I was in that position playing, they said all the type of shit about me. And I had to take it, pause, but at the same time, it is what it is. If they can handle it, I'm man enough to tell them to their face, and when they see me, we can go wherever they want to go.

Channing Crowder (4:06)

You just said if they can handle it, you don't know if they can handle it or not, because you don't already have beef with 95 people.

Leonard Fournette (4:12)

See, it ain't beef.

I'm stating my opinion, my fact. They could think it's true or not. It is what it is. Now, if you playing shit, you know, you got an iPad, you got a coach, they're gonna tell you. I'm just gonna keep around.