Jared Diamond Returns (on the science of leadership)

Dax Shepard (0:00)

Welcome, welcome, welcome to Armchair Expert, Experts on Expert. I'm Dan Shepard, and I'm joined by Lily Padman.

Monica Padman (0:05)

Hi.

Dax Shepard (0:06)

Today we have, which is a great honor, for the second time, but this time in the flesh, Jared Diamond. Jared Diamond is a scientist, a historian, a professor, and a Pulitzer Prize-winning author. I mean, this guy started in the physiology department, then he became the head of the geography department. Talk about a polymath. He's an ornithologist.

Monica Padman (0:28)

I mean, he's one of the smartest people we've talked to.

Dax Shepard (0:29)

Yeah, he really is.

His most famous book, of course, legendary, Guns, Germs, and Steel. If you have not read that book, it is phenomenal. Everyone should read that book. Collapse, The Third Chimpanzee, The World Until Yesterday, Upheaval, and his new book out now called Profits, Prophets, Coaches, and Kings, When Do Leaders Matter?

Monica Padman (0:51)

This was so interesting.

Dax Shepard (0:52)

It's so fascinating. Spoiler, there's not one thing that we can predict an effective leader on. There's many, many things that contribute to whether or not they are. Please enjoy Jared Diamond.

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Oh my goodness, you're already here.

Jared Diamond (4:19)

Yes, I am.

Dax Shepard (4:19)

How are you, sir?

Jared Diamond (4:21)

I'm good. How are you?

Dax Shepard (4:21)

Good. Wonderful to see you in real life.

Jared Diamond (4:24)

Hi. How are you?