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Isaacman Back in the Cockpit at NASA, Google Takes AI to Space, 𝕏 Timeline Reactions | Cliff Obrecht, Jerry Murdock, SHL0MS, Shehzan Maredia, Mina Fahmi, Alessandro Chesser, John Maslin, Eugenia Kuyda, Anish Acharya, David Risher & Erin Brewer

TBPN

November 5, 2025

(00:31) - Isaacman Back in Cockpit at NASA (20:44) - Google Takes AI to Space (26:09) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (01:18:31) - Cliff Obrecht, co-founder and COO of Canva, discusses the company's growth to 260 million monthly active users and nearly $4 billion in revenue, emphasizing their focus on...
Speakers: Jordi Hays, John Coogan, SHL0MS, David Risher, Shehzan Maredia, Mina Fahmi, Alessandro Chesser, John Maslin, Eugenia Kuyda, Anish Acharya, Erin Brewer
**Jordi Hays** (0:00)
You're watching TBPN.

**John Coogan** (0:02)
Today is Wednesday, November 5th, 2025 We are live from the TBPN Ultra Dome. We're back in the TBPN Ultra Dome.

**Jordi Hays** (0:08)
Everybody wanted to know what we would do if we didn't podcast today. I guess we'll never know.

**John Coogan** (0:14)
I guess we'll never know.

**Jordi Hays** (0:16)
We're back. It's so good to be back.

**John Coogan** (0:18)
It is. Back in the temple of technology, the fortress of finance, the capital of capital, still sponsored by RAMP. Time is money, save both. Easy to use corporate cards, bill payment, accounting, a whole lot more. All in one place. In breaking news yesterday, Jared Isaacman has been renominated, I guess is the term. He's back in the contention for to be NASA administrator. It was a very exciting, very tumultuous year for him. Up and down.

**Jordi Hays** (0:48)
Do we know why he was originally taken out of the running?

**John Coogan** (0:51)
Yes. So there are differing accounts according to the White House. So according to the White House, the reason is that he had donated previously to Democrats. And the White House said, like, this should be, like, we need to know that you're all in on America first, like that type of thing. But those donations were public because all donations are public. And so there was a little bit of like, well, like you nominated him, you should have just like looked it up. You can literally just like, you can literally just Google it. Like, it's not even like some secret database.
It's all open records. But then Ars Technica and a couple other outlets reported that it was because of the Elon Musk Trump dust-up that happened back in May, remember? The whole like battle and Elon was going at Trump on the timeline and Trump was going at Elon and Truth Social and they were kind of duking it out.

**Jordi Hays** (1:50)
I still can't believe that was a real day on X.

**John Coogan** (1:53)
It was a crazy day on Truth Social as well. Why are you doing Truth Social, Erasure Bro?

**Jordi Hays** (2:00)
I was going, I actually...

**John Coogan** (2:01)
No, no, literally, like Trump was not posting on X that day.

**Jordi Hays** (2:04)
Oh, right, right, right.

**John Coogan** (2:05)
Trump would post on Truth Social, it would get screen-shotted and then share it on X.

**Jordi Hays** (2:09)
I remember we were sort of live reacting to the news and I would refresh, or I'd see something on X.

**John Coogan** (2:15)
Yeah, and you'd have to actually go over.

**Jordi Hays** (2:16)
That cannot be a real post from the president and then I'd go to Truth Social and I'd say, unfortunately, that was a real post.

**John Coogan** (2:23)
And it was. And so, Isaacman got polled and Secretary Duffy stepped in. Sean Duffy, who's the 20th secretary of the Department of Transit, serving under the president. But now Isaacman's back in the picture, of course, at the Charlie Kirk Memorial. You might have seen Elon Musk and President Donald Trump sitting down, having a handshake, maybe making amends. There's been speculation as to things. It seems to be water under the bridge. They seem to have healed all wounds, I suppose.
Let me tell you about Restream. One live stream, 30 plus destinations. Multi stream and reach your audience wherever they are. So, Jerry Haysman put out a long post. We'll read through some of this and then I have a little bit of a take about his career and what not. So, he said, thank you, Mr. President, for this opportunity. It will be an honor to serve my country under your leadership. The support from the space loving community has been overwhelming. I am not sure how I earn the trust of so many, but I will do everything I can to live up to those expectations, to the innovators building the orbital economy. That's a term I haven't actually heard used before, but I like it a lot. Orbital economy is great. Space economy just doesn't hit as hard as orbital economy. I like that. The scientists pursuing breakthrough discoveries and to the dreamers across the world eager to return to the moon and the grand journey beyond, these are the most exciting times since the dawn of the space age. I truly believe the future we have all been waiting for will soon become a reality. This is inspiring. I didn't know that much about Jared Isaacman, but as soon as I started learning about him, I was a fan, and I'm very excited that he could potentially be in the seat. The big reason is that first off, he's an entrepreneur, and I think entrepreneurs make great leaders generally.

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