Is the White House's New UAP Council a Game Changer for Disclosure?

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**Brian Keating** (0:56)
Means foreign and domestic with my, I think my most frequent guest.

**Avi Loeb** (1:01)
I'm not even sure.

**Brian Keating** (1:03)
Could be, you could be my most frequent guest and that's an honor, I'm sure.

**Avi Loeb** (1:08)
All right. Let me see if this is working here. Cut this out of the final video, of course. Let's see if this works.
My videos, new channel, let's see here.

**Brian Keating** (1:22)
Could be, you could be my most frequent guest. We're working.

**Avi Loeb** (1:23)
All right.

**Brian Keating** (1:25)
Avi Loeb, welcome back to the Into the Impossible podcast.

**Avi Loeb** (1:31)
It's great to join you, Brian. And as I said before, I really appreciate the dialogue with natural intelligence rather than artificial intelligence.

**Brian Keating** (1:40)
That's right. You were talking about my brain and how, you know, you're glad to talk to a real brain instead of a silicon one. We're going to have a lot of fun today talking about all these exciting things that you've been up to, including a new White House position, because I know you don't have enough jobs, Avi, you must have been lonely.

**Avi Loeb** (2:00)
Well, this one is particularly important, and what I often tell my team members, we should keep our eyes on the orbs, not on the audience. Meaning, just like in basketball, you know, I'm sure that the New York Knicks managed to win because they were focusing on the ball, not on the audience. And in the context of what I'm doing, there is a great opportunity now that the President Trump came with the directive of declassifying videos, imagery, documents, as much as possible within the constraints of national security. There is an opportunity for us to look into the question of whether there are unusual objects near Earth that are not human made.
And you might think that I'm approaching it from a perspective of an astrophysicist, but that's not true. Actually, I draw my lesson from going to the kitchen. If I find an ant, a single ant on the kitchen cabinet, then I know that there should be thousands of them under the sink. And I'm very worried about it. So when we shut down the Chinese spy balloon, you know, a few years ago, probably the Chinese intelligence agencies were laughing because we used the missile to shoot down one balloon, but they have many more that we are not aware of. And so the question, you know, the down to earth assumption would be to say, all these orbs and unusual objects being noticed by military personnel near strategic assets of the US are actually human made.
And as a result, if the intelligence agencies are telling us that they cannot figure those out, if the Pentagon cannot really identify the senders of these gadgets. And by the way, they could be launched from within the US by people who cooperate with adversarial nations. And it doesn't need to arrive from outside the border.

**Brian Keating** (4:07)
That's right.

**Avi Loeb** (4:09)
And so I think it's a serious matter. We're not dealing with necessarily exactly the same objects that we dealt with 50 years ago.
And so right now, we have better sense.

**Brian Keating** (4:21)
Yeah, I just wanted to ask you, because we have a limited amount of time, why go to a Harvard professor as esteemed as you are, as renowned as you are? I mean, my main concern is a lot of things are coming out now. Disclosure Day just came out, a popular movie, you just reviewed it. And I think I'm going to direct everyone to the Medium article about it. But amidst that, there was also a disclosure, you know, kind of revelation by your friend, David Grush, and your friend, Congresswoman Anna Polina Luna. And I want to get right to the point, because I've been frustrated with both of them. I have, as you know, I've wanted to talk to both of them, and I'm hoping you'll make an introduction, a shidduch, as we say.