Is Betsy Worth The Schlep? artwork

Is Betsy Worth The Schlep?

Mad Food

July 11, 2026

Jordan and Max finally made the voyage to Betsy in Altadena, where the reviews have been mostly strong, but the boys needed to know if the seasonal, hearth centered restaurant is worth the schlep.
Speakers: Jordan Okun, Max Shapiro
**Jordan Okun** (0:03)
Mad Food, I'm Jordan. Max is here. And when it comes to restaurants that are shallaps, yes, right? That is to say, when it comes to restaurants that take over 30 minutes to drive through, when a restaurant is 45 away, when a meal necessitates a road trip of an hour, well, then it begs the question, is said road trip and restaurant what, Max?

**Max Shapiro** (0:34)
Worth the schlep.

**Jordan Okun** (0:35)
That's right. Thank you.
Look at you.

**Max Shapiro** (0:38)
Here I am.

**Jordan Okun** (0:39)
And you're not, you don't even rely on the Saint James in the morning. Or any kind of caffeinated beverage.

**Max Shapiro** (0:44)
That's right. I rely on nothing other than colostrum.

**Jordan Okun** (0:47)
As I break open the cap on this classic mango, went to mango. Great. Right? Went from Juicy Beach...

**Max Shapiro** (0:57)
You're a seasonal guy.

**Jordan Okun** (0:58)
To mango. That's right.
I'm celebrating the Wong mangoes. Everyone's going nuts about the Wong mangoes. The Wong people should recognize that we've actually done something for them.

**Max Shapiro** (1:07)
Listen, we're getting texts from Neil.

**Jordan Okun** (1:10)
Neil can't find a Wong anywhere.

**Max Shapiro** (1:12)
He's late to the farmer's market, blames his family.

**Jordan Okun** (1:14)
There's a lot of Wong conversation.

**Max Shapiro** (1:16)
Yeah.

**Jordan Okun** (1:17)
And I feel, in little part, it's because of us.

**Max Shapiro** (1:19)
Perhaps.

**Jordan Okun** (1:20)
Now, I don't believe Saint James uses the Wong mangoes.

**Max Shapiro** (1:23)
They might. We don't know. Not confirmed.

**Jordan Okun** (1:24)
They might. They should, but quite tasty, nonetheless. But that's right, Max.
The question is, when you're driving that far, is a restaurant worth the drive? There are many restaurants in Los Angeles worth the schlep for us. Sure. Let me name a few.

**Max Shapiro** (1:48)
Please do.

**Jordan Okun** (1:50)
Dunsmoor, of course.

**Max Shapiro** (1:51)
Of course.

**Jordan Okun** (1:52)
Okay. Bistronah.

**Max Shapiro** (1:55)
Bistronah is worth the schlep.

**Jordan Okun** (1:57)
Great. River.

**Max Shapiro** (2:01)
Definitely for me.

**Jordan Okun** (2:02)
Cato.

**Max Shapiro** (2:03)
Of course.

**Jordan Okun** (2:05)
Bavell.

**Max Shapiro** (2:06)
Yes.

**Jordan Okun** (2:07)
Max thinks Bavell should have a Michelin.

**Max Shapiro** (2:09)
I do.

**Jordan Okun** (2:09)
And it should. So of course.

**Max Shapiro** (2:12)
Yeah.

**Jordan Okun** (2:14)
You like how the St. James has me amped right now.

**Max Shapiro** (2:17)
You weren't amped, then you took a sip, and you're amped.

**Jordan Okun** (2:22)
Hermans.

**Max Shapiro** (2:23)
Hermans is worth a schlep.

**Jordan Okun** (2:25)
Muse.

**Max Shapiro** (2:27)
Of course.

**Jordan Okun** (2:28)
Sushi. Sonagi.

**Max Shapiro** (2:31)
Absolutely.

**Jordan Okun** (2:32)
Quarter sheets.

**Max Shapiro** (2:34)
Yep.

**Jordan Okun** (2:35)
And that's just to name a handful.

**Max Shapiro** (2:37)
So I can black out on cake?

**Jordan Okun** (2:39)
There's so many.
Yes. Thank God Max has a Tesla, because now anytime he eats quarter sheets, he has to have minimum three slices of princess cake just to himself, and then he can't drive after. So he hits that. What do you do? You hit a button in a Tesla?

**Max Shapiro** (2:55)
Yeah.

**Jordan Okun** (2:56)
And you put in the...

**Max Shapiro** (2:57)
Well, you put in your destination, and you just say, go.

**Jordan Okun** (3:01)
And then he leans right back with the boy full of princess in the air, and he goes night night, right? You go schluffy?

**Max Shapiro** (3:08)
You can't go schluffy. Your eyes have to be open.

**Jordan Okun** (3:11)
You should get those glasses Yeah, I've seen that. that have open eyes so you can go schluff That's rough. in the test after so much princess cake. Now, everyone's schlep though is different.

**Max Shapiro** (3:23)
Of course.

**Jordan Okun** (3:23)
Of course, depending on what.

**Max Shapiro** (3:26)
Where you live.

**Jordan Okun** (3:27)
That's right. God, so smart. These are general schleps we're talking.

**Max Shapiro** (3:35)
Sure. I mean, listen, if you we haven't, we haven't named what we're talking about yet.

**Jordan Okun** (3:40)
So please can go ahead.

**Max Shapiro** (3:42)
You know, if you if you live close to Pasadena, right? Your schlep ain't so much.

**Jordan Okun** (3:48)
That's right.

**Max Shapiro** (3:49)
But for me, it's 23 miles.

**Jordan Okun** (3:51)
That's right. So almost nowhere in the Greater Los Angeles area. Okay, almost nowhere is more of a schlep.
Then Altadena, I think that's fair to say. For most people, okay, I don't know where you're schlepping from folks, but generally speaking, Altadena is a, you know, from we mentioned Sushi Sonagi. I mean, Gardena, Altadena. These are the dinas.

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