Introducing: On Purpose with Jay Shetty
Macroaggressions
September 23, 2026
Introducing LUCY HALE: “I Was Sabotaging My Life.” from On Purpose with Jay Shetty. Jay sits down with actress Lucy Hale, who at 37 says she feels more comfortable with herself than ever before.
Speakers Jay Shetty, Lucy Hale
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I believe we were waiting for Mercury retrograde to be pre-shadow.
Lucy Hale (1:38)
This is so funny. Our original date, we were going to have this conversation during Mercury retrograde.
Everyone that's listening to this is like, oh God. But basically during Mercury retrograde, Mercury rules communication and so sometimes things don't always land as strongly as they could out of Mercury retrograde. We're in the clear. We pushed it a little earlier, so.
Jay Shetty (1:59)
Wow. Okay. I love that. Hey, it's Jay. I don't know what your day has been like, but I was just thinking about you for a minute.
I hope you're being a little patient with yourself, because you deserve it. Yeah.
Lucy Hale (2:14)
I'll talk to you soon.
Jay Shetty (2:25)
Lucy Hale, welcome to On Purpose.
Lucy Hale (2:27)
So happy to be here.
Jay Shetty (2:29)
Honestly, I've been waiting for this moment for so long. We were just talking about how we first met. We were launching, at that time, a new app called Better Help.
Lucy Hale (2:39)
Yeah.
Jay Shetty (2:40)
It was during the pandemic.
Lucy Hale (2:41)
Yeah, you came to my house.
Jay Shetty (2:42)
I came to your house.
Lucy Hale (2:43)
We were fully in my living room, and we hosted this live event. So that's been about six years ago. And I feel like since then, this interview has almost happened. But as I was driving over here, I was like, this is the perfect time in my life to be sitting down with you and chatting about life. And very honored to be here.
Jay Shetty (3:02)
And has that been how you've made decisions and choices for a while? Have you used that as insight?
Lucy Hale (3:08)
I feel like things like astrology, my spirituality definitely has come into play more in recent years. But I am an astrology girlie, I have to say.
The more I learn about it, the more I dive into my birth chart. It's so complex. The more it's proven to be accurate for me. Like I don't think it's astrology can predict your future, but I think it gives you a toolbox to be like, oh, that's why this is so hard for me to grapple with. That's why relationships have been challenging in my life. And like there's placements in astrology, and then I'll stop talking about this. There's placements in astrology that can like show you past life addictions or I just find it really fascinating. And we were just chatting before that anything that's going to help me have more self-realization, anything that's going to help my soul evolve, like I dive completely in. I'm obsessed.
Jay Shetty (4:02)
Do you use the common signs or are you using another astrological science?
Lucy Hale (4:07)
Yes. So I'm a Gemini Sun, Scorpio Moon, Leo rising. What's yours?
Jay Shetty (4:11)
I don't know my full, I'm just a Virgo. That's all I know. You're a Virgo.
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