Introducing: On Purpose with Jay Shetty

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Jay Shetty (0:30)

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I believe we were waiting for Mercury Retrograde to be pre-shadow.

Lucy Hale (2:16)

This is so funny. Our original date, we were going to have this conversation during Mercury Retrograde and so everyone's that's listening to this is like, Oh God. But basically during Mercury Retrograde, Mercury rules communication and so sometimes things don't always land as strongly as they could out of Mercury Retrograde. So we're in the clear.

We pushed it a little earlier.

Jay Shetty (2:38)

Wow. Okay. I love that. Hey, it's Jay. I don't know what your day has been like, but I was just thinking about you for a minute. And I hope you're being a little patient with yourself because you deserve it. And yeah, I'll talk to you soon.

Lucy Hale, welcome to On Purpose. Hello.

Lucy Hale (3:06)

So happy to be here.

Jay Shetty (3:07)

I am honestly, I've been waiting for this moment for so long. We were just talking about how we first met. We were launching at that time a new app called Better Help.

SPEAKER_1 (3:18)

Yeah.

Jay Shetty (3:18)

It was during the pandemic.

Lucy Hale (3:19)

Yeah, you came to my house.

SPEAKER_1 (3:20)

I came to your house.

Lucy Hale (3:21)

We were fully in my living room and we hosted this live event. So that's been about six years ago. And I feel like since then, this interview has almost happened. But as I was driving over here, I was like, this is the perfect time in my life to be sitting down with you and chatting about life. And very honored to be here.

Jay Shetty (3:41)

And has that been how you've made decisions and choices for a while? Have you used that as insight?

Lucy Hale (3:46)

I feel like things like astrology, my spirituality definitely has come into play more in recent years, but I am an astrology girlie, I have to say. Like the more I learn about it, the more I like dive into my birth chart. It's so complex. The more it's proven to be accurate for me. Like I don't think it's, astrology can predict your future, but I think it gives you a toolbox to be like, oh, that's why this is so hard for me to grapple with. That's why relationships have been challenging in my life. And like there's placements in astrology, and then I'll stop talking about this. There's placements in astrology that can like, show you past life addictions, or I just find it really fascinating. And we were just chatting before that, anything that's going to help me have more self-realization, anything that's going to help my soul evolve, like I dive completely in. I'm obsessed.