Inside the White House Tech Dinner, Weak Jobs Report, Tariffs Court Challenge, Google Wins Antitrust

**Jason Calacanis** (0:00)
All right, Sacks, how are you doing, brother? Wait, wait, what's this? Why are you wearing a tie?

**David Sacks** (0:03)
I'm in DC today, so it's a it's a government day.

**Jason Calacanis** (0:06)
So you suited up with the ties, you suit up with ties. Well, maybe I'll join you. Maybe I'll join you. Oh, look. Oh, look. What is this box I just got? Well, that's for my guy, Tom. Oh, just for Jay Cal. Mr. Jason Calacanis, the suit's in the box here. Oh, what's going on here?

**David Sacks** (0:21)
Tom Ford sent you something?

**Jason Calacanis** (0:22)
Tom sent me a nice tie.

**David Sacks** (0:24)
Maybe I'll go all blue. Oh, I heard that Moose ate your invitation to the White House.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (0:30)
He did. He did.

**David Sacks** (0:31)
I'm sorry about that. I'm sorry about that.

**Jason Calacanis** (0:34)
I'm a little prick.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (0:47)
Love you, S.A.B.E.

**Jason Calacanis** (0:52)
All right, everybody. Welcome back to the number one podcast in the universe. In the universe, it's been proven time and time again. I'm not putting the tie up. It's enough already. It's Friday. We moved the show to Friday. Sorry, you're getting this on Saturday.

**David Sacks** (1:09)
This is why you can't come to the White House. You can't figure out a tie.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (1:13)
Yeah.

**Jason Calacanis** (1:13)
Well, maybe you could show me how to do this next time I'm in town. I've got to practice with you with the mirror.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (1:18)
You could.

**Jason Calacanis** (1:18)
That'd be great. You behind me showing me how to do a tie. We didn't have ties in Brooklyn. What do you want me to do? All right. Well, it was an eventful week. Some of our besties, some, not all, were invited apparently to a little soiree at the White House with the president, Sacks and Chamath. Here's a photo. Some pretty good scene arrangement here. It looks like Zuckerberg got the pole position on the right hand of the father, followed by Sacksie Poo and Chamath and Amadei, sitting right across from Sam Altman and Tim Cook. What a crowd. What a crowd.
What was the impetus for this dinner, Sacks? Tell us.

**David Sacks** (2:02)
Well, this was a tech dinner at the White House. I think it originally started with a group that Chamath organized in Silicon Valley, and they were kind of the core nucleus of this. And then more and more people just wanted to come and try to get in. And the president invited some of the top tech leaders, and pretty soon it turned into the room that you saw there. I mean, it's really pretty amazing President Trump's ability to convene all of these people. You normally don't get these people in a room together. Many of them are competitors. And it's remarkable. You pretty much had, I'd say, like maybe half the tech industry was there.

**Jason Calacanis** (2:36)
By market cap, certainly.

**David Sacks** (2:37)
By market cap, for sure.

**Jason Calacanis** (2:39)
Yeah. And Chamath, you obviously were involved here and you got a pretty good seat. Any great inside stories? Any inside baseball? What did they serve, by the way? I'm curious. What could serve at a dinner like this?

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (2:51)
That was a very elegant menu. And they try to keep it light so that it's not overwhelming, which I think can get in the way. So it was like a-

**Jason Calacanis** (3:00)
So no prime rib, right?

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (3:01)
That was a burrata salad and then there was a filet and then a nice raspberry dessert.

**Jason Calacanis** (3:06)
Okay.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (3:06)
Here's what I'll tell you. Sacks said it well. What was incredible for me, just to frankly be in the room, felt very surreal. You're seeing the leaders of the most important companies in the world sitting together.
And I just felt like there was a sense of alignment and cooperation. And that was really cool. I think none of those folks have to really show up anywhere that they don't have to. I think they're at a place in their career and the importance of the businesses that they run. But the fact that the president can convene them, I think says a lot about him and the agenda. And then they, to a one, were incredibly supportive of what he has done and clearing the way and allowing them to build their businesses with a lot more clarity. It was just very clear the juxtaposition of what it was like and the difficulty under Biden versus what it was now. And you saw some very truly hard cast liberals who have now completely embraced President Trump. Folks like Tim Cook, folks like Bill Gates. And I think that that's an incredible testament to him and his agenda. And then the second thing, which is more personal, is I was so proud of Sacks, every single one of these guys. And you're talking like the Titans of Titans. They took a moment to say that he was just doing an incredible job and the president was really proud of it. It was like as a brother, it's like you're seeing your brother just get completely, it was great. So that was really special.