Inside OpenAI Enterprise: Forward Deployed Engineering, GPT-5, and More | BG2 Guest Interview

**Sherwin Wu** (0:00)
We literally had to bring the weights of the model physically into their supercomputer.

**Apoorv Agrawal** (0:04)
In San Francisco, you could take a car from one part of SF to the other fully autonomously. As opposed to the digital world, I can't book a ticket online right now. Physical autonomy is ahead of digital autonomy in 2025

**Sherwin Wu** (0:16)
I think AI agents are like really in day one here, like Chad GPT only came out in 2022, and the slope, I think, is incredibly steep. I actually do think self-driving cars have a good amount of scaffolding in the world. You have roads, roads exist, they're pretty standardized, you have stoplights. AI agents are just kind of dropped in the middle of nowhere.

**Apoorv Agrawal** (0:33)
We'll start with long short game.

**Sherwin Wu** (0:35)
I'm short on the entire category of tooling, eval's products.

**Olivier Godement** (0:40)
Healthcare is probably the industry that will benefit the most from AI. I think I'm a JPL.

**Sherwin Wu** (0:46)
You're definitely a JPL.

**Olivier Godement** (0:47)
The first one was the realization in 2023 that I would never need to code manually like ever, ever again.

**Apoorv Agrawal** (1:01)
Hey folks, I'm Apoorv Agrawal, and today at the OpenAI office, we had a wide-ranging conversation about OpenAI's work in enterprise. I have with me the head of engineering and head of product of the OpenAI platform, Sherwin Wu and Olivier Godement. OpenAI is well known as the creator of Chiat GPT, which is a product that billions across the world have come to love and enjoy. But today we dive into the other side of the business, which is OpenAI's work in enterprise. We go deep into their work with specific customers and how OpenAI is transforming large and important industries like healthcare, telecommunications and national security research. We also talk about Sherwin and Olivier's outlook on what's next in AI, what's next in technology and their picks both on the long and short side. This is a lot of fun to do. I hope you really enjoy it. Well, two world-class builders, two people who make look building easy. Sherwin, my Palantir 2013 classmate, tennis buddy, with two stops at Cora and Opendoor through the IPO before joining OpenAI, before Chiat GPT. You've now been here for three years and lead engineering for all OpenAI platform. Olivier, former entrepreneur, winner of the Golden Llama at Stripe, where you were for just under a decade, and now lead all of the product at OpenAI platform.

**Olivier Godement** (2:15)
That's right.

**Apoorv Agrawal** (2:16)
Thanks for doing it.

**Olivier Godement** (2:17)
Thank you.

**Sherwin Wu** (2:17)
Thanks for having us.

**Apoorv Agrawal** (2:18)
You know, as a shareholder, as a thought partner, kicking ideas back and forth, I always learn a lot from you guys. And so it's a treat. It's a real treat to do this for everybody. You know, I'll open with people who know OpenAI as the firm that built ChatGPT, the product that they have in their pocket that comes with them every day to work, to personal lives. But the focus for today is OpenAI for Enterprise. You guys lead OpenAI platform. Tell us about it. What's underneath the OpenAI platform for B2B for Enterprise?

**Sherwin Wu** (2:49)
Yeah, so this is actually a really interesting question, too, because when I joined OpenAI around three years ago to work on the API, it was actually the only product that we had. So I think a lot of people actually forget this, where the original product from OpenAI actually was not ChatGPT. It was a B2B product. It was the API we were catering towards developers. And so I've actually seen the launch of ChatGPT and everything downstream from that. But at its core, I actually think the reason why we have a platform and why we started with an API is it kind of comes back to the OpenAI mission. So our mission obviously is to build AGI, which is pretty hard in and of itself, but also to distribute the benefits of it to everyone in the world, to all of humanity. And it's pretty clear right now to see ChatGPT doing that, because my mom, maybe even your parents, are using ChatGPT. But we actually view our platform and especially our API and how we work with our customers, our enterprise customers, as our way of getting the benefits of AGI, of AI, to as many people as possible, to everyone in every corner of the world. ChatGPT obviously is really, really big now. It's I think like the fifth largest website in the world. But we actually, by working through developers using our API, we're actually able to reach even more people in every corner of the world, in every different use case that you might have. And especially with some of our enterprise customers, we're able to reach even use cases within businesses and reach end users of those businesses as well.