ICE Raids, LA Riots, Strong Economic Data, Politicized Fed, Iran War with Tucker Carlson

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (0:00)
Can I ask a question about the nicotine pouches? Yes. Does it melt in your mouth, or do you have to spit it out later?

**Tucker Carlson** (0:07)
You can spit it out, you can swallow it, or you just savor it. I mean, you throw it in like you would a dip of tobacco.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (0:13)
Okay.

**Tucker Carlson** (0:13)
But you just let it sit there, and then it suffuses your nervous system with life-giving nicotine. And it really does feel like the hand of God is massaging you.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (0:23)
But does it feel like the high of smoking a cigarette?

**Tucker Carlson** (0:26)
It's simultaneously, if you can imagine the Zen paradox, higher alertness accompanied by deep relaxation. Wow. You really are. No, no, it's a Zen experience. You're like cat-like in your readiness, but you're fully relaxed.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (0:46)
How long does it last?

**Tucker Carlson** (0:47)
I always have one going sometimes. If things are, you know, if I need it, I'll put another one in. So I've got 18 milligrams of nicotine. But that gives me an unfair advantage.

**Jason Calacanis** (0:57)
You're banging 18 milligrams? Woo, that's impressive.

**Tucker Carlson** (1:00)
I don't like to because everybody else kind of recedes into the background and I become this kind of colossus when I do that and I feel guilty about it. Hubris is inevitable at that point. So I usually keep it to one.

**David Sacks** (1:11)
I mean, I could use a new addiction.

**Tucker Carlson** (1:13)
Oh, yes.

**David Sacks** (1:14)
What's the gateway drug level? What would you prescribe?

**Jason Calacanis** (1:17)
This sits between caffeine and cocaine.

**Tucker Carlson** (1:19)
It's not a 3-milligram, but there's a transition, like all great addictions. Like it's not instanti- you do vomit at first, but then your body acclimates.

**Jason Calacanis** (1:32)
It's kind of like heroin in that way, you know, like what you get or Zempik. You just, you got to power through. Kyle Waska, you heat twice, and then you're addicted.

**Tucker Carlson** (1:42)
And then enlightenment.

**Jason Calacanis** (1:43)
Love, Tucker.
All right, everybody, welcome back to the number one podcast in the world after Tucker Carlson's amazing podcast. That's right. Tucker is back here on the All-In Podcast with Chamath Palihapitiya, your chairman dictator, and the czar, David Sacks. Not from the White House. He's from the suite, but he's here back on the program. Looking great. Look at the collar. Mm, Brioni. I ordered three or four Brioni's after the last week's show. I did. I'm getting the Brioni. Well, I have the All-In expense accounts now.

**David Sacks** (2:30)
What did you call it? Brioni? Brioni.

**Chamath Palihapitiya** (2:32)
He'll be paying for it over 72 months.

**Jason Calacanis** (2:35)
Two monthly payments. The layaway.

**David Sacks** (2:38)
Do you use Affirm or Plarna?

**Jason Calacanis** (2:40)
I'll pay for that. Hey, Tucker, last time you were here, you famously, famously, gosh, it's been a year of feedback on your last performance. Thank you for coming back. We got a lot of crazy feedback from the private equity Housewives, but I got more feedback.

**David Sacks** (2:57)
I bet you did.

**Tucker Carlson** (2:58)
They love me.

**Jason Calacanis** (3:00)
But you know what? You're in deep. You're in deep because I am here in LA and the Los Angeles Studio Wives group is really, really pissed off at you because they feel that they're the problem. They feel they're a much bigger problem than private equity Housewives. So Hollywood Studio Heads Wives versus private equity wives.

**Tucker Carlson** (3:18)
I know some of them and they're absolutely a bigger problem, but there are fewer of them.
It's kind of hard to get critical mass. Yeah, exactly. They're a smaller threat. They're kind of an elite unit.
They're like Delta Force.

**David Sacks** (3:33)
They have less money, too. They don't get as much in the divorce as these private equity wives.

**Jason Calacanis** (3:37)
Got it. So they're coming in like a SWAT team. If you want to send them in to deal with a very specific issue, great, but they're not going to cause as much bedlam globally as the private equity.

**Tucker Carlson** (3:50)
They cause a lot of misery, though.

**David Sacks** (3:52)
As one Mackenzie Bezos.

**Tucker Carlson** (3:54)
Exactly.

**Jason Calacanis** (3:55)
Oh my God. All right. Listen, let's get a plug in here. All-In Summit, fourth year. Tucker's coming this year, I hope. September 7th to 9th in Los Angeles. The goal, have the world's most important conversations, yada, yada, yada.
Blah, blah, blah. Apply for a ticket. allin.com/yada, yada, yada, or allin.com/summit to apply for a ticket. Friedberg is out this week. So Tucker is here and my lord, what's going on in the news? Let's start with the immigration protests slash riots slash ice actions in Los Angeles. I'm actually here. Last Friday, protests broke out after ICE raided Home Depot, a fashion wholesaler. In total, 44 people were arrested by ICE, 10 times as many, 400 and counting from the protests. They even ran into ICE, that is, ran into a strawberry field in Oxnard to just randomly pick people up, it seems. At least a half dozen Waymo's were vandalized and burned, 20-plus businesses looted, and Waymo narrowed their area, and it's spiked with 30-minute wait times, so that's a first world problem. Riders throwing bricks, Molotov cocktails, shooting fireworks at law enforcement, completely unacceptable. So two men were charged with throwing Molotov cocktails at officers. Trump deployed the National Guard, 2001st, then 4,000, apparently. And apparently, there's a battalion of Marines here, 700 of them. Karen Bass instituted a curfew downtown LA, 8 p.m. to 6 a.m. And prosecutors, federal prosecutors, that is, are trying to identify hundreds of people. Newsom, Bass denounced the raids, obviously, and they're blaming Trump for escalating the situation. Trump and members of the White House responded by calling out California's weak leadership. And now we have protests popping up everywhere else, New York, Chicago, Austin, DC. Tucker, you grew up in Southern California, I think.