Ian Bremmer Says There Is No Iran Deal

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**Chris Cuomo** (0:22)
Are we anywhere close to a deal with Iran? Is this really Israel's fault? Is what's going on somehow related to AI? Is AI everything? And is AI going to drive the midterms? And is what we're seeing in the midterms right now, horseshoe polarization that has been seen all over the place in the world?
Are those things real? Yes. And here's what you need to know. There are answers to each and all of these things. The noise is actually distracting from real signal. There are answers. How do I know? Because I got the guy who has them. I'm Chris Cuomo. Welcome to the Chris Cuomo Project. Ian Bremmer. This guy travels the whole world all the time for GZERO Media, and he is a leading international geopolitical thinker and understanding of the diplomatic, the socioeconomic, the straight economic, the political, the political economies, all of it in real time. That's what he does. How does he see where things stand with Iran or not? Israel's role or not? What it means back here at home now and at the midterms? And what is happening here? And what is actually driving it? And where does it lead us? So many questions. Why critical thinkers have questions.
And the problem is that people throw answers at you that really just suit their agenda.
So what is a clear-eyed analysis? What is the deeper look? How is it all connected? What does it mean? That takes us to Mr. Ian Bremmer.
Ian Bremmer, as I live and breathe, I don't think I've ever had more need for your perspective, both in terms of what's happening to America, from America abroad and at home. And I've been following your feed even more closely than all eyes, and you are very tuned in. So let's start abroad and move into home.

**Ian Bremmer** (2:34)
Sure, it's always good to see you, Chris. Happy to do it.

**Chris Cuomo** (2:36)
Pleasure, brother. So the Iran deal, in quotes, is that even the right word?

**SPEAKER_4** (2:43)
No, it's not the right word.

**Ian Bremmer** (2:45)
It is because a deal brings us back to the Obama JCPOA, the nuclear deal, and it makes us think about, is this a better deal? Is it a worse deal?
We're nowhere close to that. All we're talking about is getting the straight reopened, and it mostly is, right? I mean, that's why oil prices are coming down and the ships are going through. It's not 100%, and some of that is Iranian chippiness and leverage, and some of it is it just takes time to actually unstuck the waterway, and we also have virtually, I wouldn't say no fighting, but very limited fighting compared to where we were before the ceasefire. That's not a deal. It's not a deal at all, but it does get us closer to the status quo ante where we can put behind us the disastrous missteps of the last four plus months.

**Chris Cuomo** (3:41)
The argument is no, no, no, no, no, not disastrous. Got us to a better place. Something had to be happened. They were about to have nukes, and now we're going to get a better deal than we've ever had before.

**Ian Bremmer** (3:55)
Yeah, that's the argument. I don't see it. If that were to happen, I'd be delighted, of course, as would you.
We'd certainly love to see the Iranians come to the table and give up all of their enriched uranium stocks and willingly allow inspectors in to ensure that that is indeed happening and not engage in enrichment going forward. I am very skeptical that will happen. That has not happened. They have not agreed to that. They haven't come close to agreeing to that, and they've gotten a lot of money for a country that hasn't agreed to any of those things. They've gotten money from being able to now sell once again, as they did at the beginning of the war, their exported oil at pretty significant rates, and also we're seeing significant amounts of their assets being unfrozen. That's well before we talk about some possible, in the future, nuclear deal that no Iranians have agreed to, and there haven't really been serious negotiations since the war started.

**Chris Cuomo** (4:59)
Why are my friends in Riyadh and in Amman saying, I can't believe you people agreed in the MOU to treat the regime as a sovereign. Is this really that unusual and why is it something we don't really talk about at home, but seems to really piss off my friends in Saudi Arabia and Jordan?