I Like Turtles - The Apple & Epic Fight Continues

**Leo Laporte** (0:00)
It's time for MacBreak Weekly. Andy Ihnatko is here, Jason Snell, and filling in for Christina Warren, the wonderful Glenn Fleishman. We're going to talk about the sticker shock. We're all going through it. What Apple is doing, trying to replace or reduce the cost of your next Apple device. How much will that folding phone cost?
Speculation and five new iPhones coming in the next couple of years. What could that be? We'll talk about it next on MacBreak Weekly.

**Andy Ihnatko** (0:30)
Podcasts you love from people you trust, this is TWiT.

**Leo Laporte** (0:39)
This is MacBreak Weekly episode 1032, recorded Tuesday, July 7th, 2026 I like turtles. It's time for MacBreak Weekly. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, the moment you've all been waiting for. I don't know what that is.
The show where we talk about all the Apple news with Mr. Andy Ihnatko from the world famous ihnatko.com. Hello, Andrew.

**Andy Ihnatko** (1:06)
Hello, hello, hello. Coming at you with my brand new, not $300 paid extra for a MacBook G5, M5.

**Leo Laporte** (1:15)
You lucky dog.

**Andy Ihnatko** (1:16)
Yes, I can full screen you now. VM1 was like, you know what? What if we were to minimize that window, Andy? That would be great, wouldn't it? Yeah, VM1, that's fine. We can minimize that.

**Leo Laporte** (1:26)
Andy arrives at the library singing, I've got the power. Also with us, Mr. Jason Snell, who is no longer wearing the USA Jersey. Did you retire it? Is it?

**Jason Snell** (1:36)
I mean, there's a reason I wore it last week, Leo. I did wear it last night as well. No, I've got my Apple rainbow on.

**Leo Laporte** (1:43)
Oh, nice. Very nice. Christina, as we mentioned last week, has the week off. She's in Berlin for some sort of Microsoft confab, but that's good news. Because that empty seat means Glenn Fleishman can sit down instead of just standing the whole time. Hello, Glenn.

**Glenn Fleishman** (1:58)
Hello there.

**Leo Laporte** (1:59)
How are you? Always a pleasure to see you, my friend. How's the, is the Kickstarter over? Is the book funded? Are you doing the thing?

**Glenn Fleishman** (2:06)
I've, I've done two. I've done, I've done so many Kickstarters. I can't even keep track. I did.

**Leo Laporte** (2:10)
You know, Jason said you were his Kickstarter consultant.

**Jason Snell** (2:13)
Yeah.

**Glenn Fleishman** (2:14)
I was like, I was a concierge, I would say, cause he and Mike Hurley ran their design in California campaign like champs, like pros.

**Leo Laporte** (2:22)
Yeah, he did really, really well.

**Jason Snell** (2:24)
Glenn was just there to tell us when we did stupid stuff, which was very helpful.

**Glenn Fleishman** (2:28)
Or like that, don't know that, that button, that weird, there's that weird setting in Kickstarter. No flick. No, no, no, no, not that one. But yeah, Kickstarter is Kickstarter is your Reveager from the original Star Trek movie where it becomes part of this massive cloud of additional function. Kickstarter is like a little probe growing through space and they're like, maybe we should just keep bolting things onto it until it's the size of a planet.
But it's wonderful and it's a great. So yeah, long time no see funded earlier this year. And then I did that one Matt Bors comic. We're doing an entire book about a single panel of a single comic and it did very well in Kickstarter.

**Leo Laporte** (3:05)
What's the name of that? So you can preorder long time no see.

**Glenn Fleishman** (3:08)
Yeah.

**Leo Laporte** (3:08)
And the other is that is official.

**Glenn Fleishman** (3:11)
That one Matt Bors comic, which you can get that one more back. But one more that one Matt Bors comic.com.
You can type it.

**Leo Laporte** (3:19)
And how do you spell Matt Bors?

**Glenn Fleishman** (3:22)
M-A-T-T-B-O-R-S, Matt Bors.
He did the comic, everyone cites, which is we should improve society somewhat. And there's a smirk smirking guy in a well who says, ah, curious yet you participate in society. I am very intelligent. So this became a meme and we're doing a whole book about kind of the nature of memes and this particular thing and neoliberalism and I've got essayists and cartoonists and we're pulling a lot of mash up art from people have done things where they'll put like AOC in one face and like Bernie Sanders on the other. And it's a lot of fun. So that was a, that's also coming out this year.

**Leo Laporte** (3:59)
It is a fascinating subject how just moments in time can become memes and it's unpredictable. I mean, I see people trying all the time to go viral and it's just unpredictable and it's fascinating. And I think this is a great subject for a book.