I Confront The Secretary of Energy On UFOs

Jesse Michels (0:00)

Today, we make American Alchemy history.

John Herrington (0:03)

I have seen laser technology that could bring down almost anything.

Jesse Michels (0:07)

We get to interview a former secretary of energy. That's right, the guy that ran the entire Department of Energy. All of our nuclear programs, the national labs, and if I'm right, probably a lot of stuff around UFOs.

SPEAKER_3 (0:21)

If you actually read the Atomic Energy Act, if something is not a nuke, but it has radiological energy coming off it, alpha, beta decay, whatever.

Jesse Michels (0:30)

Same secrecy.

SPEAKER_3 (0:31)

Same secrecy.

Jesse Michels (0:32)

I believe nuclear secrecy was used as a Trojan horse for UFO secrecy.

SPEAKER_4 (0:37)

The Manhattan Project would have custody of it, and then it would go into the Atomic Energy Commission, and then it would go into the Department of Energy, which has its own line of clearances.

Jesse Michels (0:49)

That makes sense. UFOs have shown up at nuclear weapons installations and civilian energy grids for the last 80 years.

Countless witnesses have reported UFOs hovering around nuclear sites since the 40s, before we had drones or reconnaissance planes, and thousands of military and intelligence reports have documented this connection. From Roswell, New Mexico in 1947, the site of the largest nuclear stockpile to date, to Fukushima, Japan, to Chernobyl, and Ukraine, the connection between nuclear and UFOs is global and ubiquitous.

But the person we're about to interview isn't just any secretary of energy. He was one of Ronald Reagan's closest advisors throughout his career. The reason I really wanted to interview him is that there has been a story circulating about him by a friend of the show and former American alchemist, Brent Friedman. Here's how that story goes.

Brent Friedman (1:50)

I grew up next to a guy that I revered. A guy named John Herrington, his wife Lois, his two daughters, I'm not going to name them, and we literally live right next to him. There was like one gate between us. John was a man's man. John taught me how to throw a football, got me into football, just all these things, and he was like a surrogate father to me. Cut to six years later, he calls me up, he goes, listen, I got a new job. I'm back East now. I'd like you to drive our cars across the country. That night when he comes home, all of a sudden a black Lincoln Town Car pulls up. He gets out of the back seat and there's two Secret Service people that come in, and I notice he has a briefcase handcuffed to his wrist.

They walk him into the house and they go back and I'm watching from a distance. He puts it into a wall safe distance and one of the Secret Service people leaves and the other one stays in the house. I'm thinking, who is this guy?

Then afterwards, he's like, hey, why don't you and I go out onto the veranda and catch up?

I'm sitting there talking with him, we're catching up and I'm like, okay, all of that's great. What is your job? He goes, I can't really talk about it. I'm working for the government, it's classified. I said, okay, well, I don't know what does that even mean? He goes, look, I have a higher clearance level in the president. How did you get that job? He said, well, I was briefed for months in an underground facility in West Virginia. I said, what? What was that like? And he said, well, I used to cry myself to sleep every night. So I said, well, I don't, what, what would make you cry yourself to sleep? And he goes, Brent, this is not the world I thought I was bringing my daughters into.

And so I pressed him on and he kept saying, I can't talk about that. I can't talk about it. I can't, this is like classified information. And finally, after he'd had a couple of drinks, he said, all right, look, I can tell you this. Aliens are real. They're here and I've seen them. Then I came back at him with, okay, hold on a second. If what you're saying is true, how does everyone not know about it? And he said, oh, lots of people know about it. 81, you could walk into any bookstore and you're going to find all sorts of books on the shelves with lots of truth. But right next to them are the books that we publish, full of propaganda. It's a multi-billion dollar campaign to cover up the truth.

SPEAKER_6 (4:18)

They're real, Mr. Herrington.

Jesse Michels (4:26)

So I needed to speak to John Herrington myself. Luckily, his grandson, shout out David, was a fan of the show. Knowing that this would be an uphill battle, but also a historic interview. And it's one that I hope body language experts can analyze very closely.