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**Patrick O'Shaughnessy** (2:36)
My guest today is Howie Liu. Howie is the co-founder and CEO of Airtable, a no-code app platform that allows teams to build on top of their shared data and create productive workflows. The business began in 2013 and now has use cases built out for over 300,000 organizations. As Airtable begins to integrate AI and the latest LLMs into its product, Howie has maintained a focus on an intuitive building experience, allowing anyone to build out their workflow within minutes or hours. We discussed the future of the platform in the era of AI, perspective on horizontal versus vertical software solutions, and his crucial moments as a leader. Please enjoy this discussion with Howie Liu.
You have this really interesting perspective in that you're an established large company, but you're not some massive fang stock. So you can move very fast still, but you also have a good amount of distribution and a brand and a workflow tool that's been used for a long time. How are you approaching both, I guess, the risk and the opportunity of this insane new technology into an established startup that when you started it, this stuff didn't exist, you couldn't use it. Now you can.
What is your strategy and thinking for using this rather than getting killed by it?
**Howie Liu** (3:49)
Yeah, well, I think you're exactly right. We have to be as scrappy as the smallest startups. If you're a big, big, big company like the Fangs, if you're Microsoft, you make these multi-year bets on this. You can afford to be a few years late, but you're going to have such a distribution advantage by the end of it that even if you build not that great of a product and it's a little late, you'll still be able to win a lot of market share. I think for us, we're somewhere in between. And I think we do have an existing distribution base. I would say that's a big advantage. We have more than half the Fortune 500 as paying customers of some kind. We have around 100,000 total paid customers when you include the SMB self-serve stuff and probably hundreds of thousands more organizations that use Airtable for free. So that's a pretty sizable distribution base versus a net new startup coming into the space. I would also say for us, the advantage of having actually a platform.
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