How Gary Vee runs 7 businesses

**Gary Vaynerchuk** (0:00)
Well, this is going to be one of the highlights that I know from this podcast. I love that I said meeting. This feels more like a business meeting. This is why you guys are successful.

**Sam Parr** (0:17)
Gary, let me ask you a hard-hitting question. I've known you now for a few years, a while now.
Do you own a computer?

**Gary Vaynerchuk** (0:24)
You know what's funny? I did not own a computer for four or five years going into COVID.

**Sam Parr** (0:33)
What year did you buy your first laptop?

**Gary Vaynerchuk** (0:35)
I went full phone because I didn't work within Excel or any documentation, and it was all email meetings, social. I think I stopped having a laptop in 15, went to 19 without one, but I've had one since.

**Shaan Puri** (0:53)
You know those luxury brands where it's like Quiet Wealth or whatever, where there's no label? We found the podcast version of this, which is that the richest guys who come on the pod, they don't know how to use a computer. They're like, assistant sets up a screen. They just show up. We had one guy try to share his screen and he was like, honestly, he's like, honestly guys, this is bad.
I don't even know what I'm doing. We go, just click in Chrome because what's Chrome? He didn't even know what Google Chrome was. He goes, I don't think I have one of those.

**Gary Vaynerchuk** (1:20)
It's ironic. It's so crazy to think about the evolution. So I went through those four years. It was the best, like not having a laptop at the airport. Like it was the best. And now it's completely the opposite, right? Like my open claw computer is like the most important thing in my life, right? It's just so fascinating.

**Shaan Puri** (1:37)
Wait, what are you doing with open claw, Gary?

**Gary Vaynerchuk** (1:39)
I mean, lots of things. I think with open claw specifically, I'm using it as a capture fall for all information. What's been really fascinating, even with three admins and chief of staff and all this, I'm still like, I never got there. Like some of my friends where their chief of staff is with them in every meeting. So there'd be like so much context lost, right? Like in a meeting, so much opportunity missed. So one of the first things I've done with open claw is it might even happen here. I might literally take a photo of this screen sent to my open claw on text. It's mainly for CRM for me right now, relationship graph. And then what's so amazing, right, is once it understands my relationship graph, now I'm just building logic and agents on top of it, like keep me updated on when things are happening. Like even sending you guys an email automatically in two years saying congrats on a trillion downloads because it knows I know you, it knows that was a milestone for you. And I do want to say, hey, could you like, it's just like scaling all my favorite things about humans is definitely step one for me.

**Shaan Puri** (2:42)
You just said something about relationships and you have this guy Nick Dio.

**Gary Vaynerchuk** (2:46)
Yes.

**Shaan Puri** (2:47)
I think you had, I don't know if he's still with you, but this fascinated me.
He does these really interesting things. He's like, hosts these dinners almost like on behalf of Gary. Who is this guy? What is he doing?

**Gary Vaynerchuk** (2:57)
So I'll tell everybody who's listening. This is actually a pretty, this will be good. This is going to be good for your crew. Nick Dio is the VP of relationships. He literally goes around the world. And in essence, he's been with me for 12 years, started as an intern, grew up in VaynerMedia. I trust him to represent me to some degree because I can't be everywhere. And about two, three years ago, I realized my favorite thing about business is people.
It's probably why I ended up having an agency with 3,000 people, when that's not the best business model. It's why I make so much content. I just like the people part. And Nick just became another version of that, which is like, I can't be everywhere. And who's got a better job than Nick? Go around the world and listen carefully if there's something we could do something for someone for karma.
No KBI, no ROI, like pay attention. And Nick, you know me so well. You know we have so much to give. Just keep your ear to the ground. Figure out who's got the right intent. Figure out who's talking shit and not talking shit. Who's good, who's good?