“How Did It Happen In America?” – Raymond Ibrahim On Islam, Immigration And Conversion

Patrick Bet-David (0:00)

What percentage of these guys are extremists, in your opinion? What percent? Because I know a lot of good Muslims, and I work with them, and I have no problem with them. What percentage of them believe it to the point where they're fundamentalists? I'm not talking about the modern, moderate, or just, hey, what percentage would you say?

Raymond Ibrahim (0:18)

Obviously, that's a hard question to answer. I think it's a lot, it's a bigger percentage than most people think. However, I have an analogy where I'll show you that even, okay, so I think everyone will agree.

The smallest percentage I've heard, very conservative, is 10 Okay, that's very small. I think it's more than that. But let's say 10%, okay? And the analogy I like to give, I call it the 100 Muslim candies. So imagine if I give you a jar and it has 100 candies. Okay, and I tell you, but 10% of them might kill you. Right, are you gonna eat from that?

And it's mixed up, you don't know which is the candy. Are you gonna give it to your kids, are you gonna give it to anyone, are you gonna give it to your friends, are you gonna give it to anyone short of someone you hate? No. So I submit to you that that is exactly the situation. When you bring large Muslim migrants, populations, millions, at least 10% are gonna be bad for you. Okay, they're gonna do what we've seen, which is go stab people, kill little kids, crash trucks, bomb churches, rape women, okay? It's gonna happen. You're accepting that, you are openly saying this is okay. All right, whereas a normal person, a normal person would never give that jar to anyone because he knows in it, not all of it, and I get it, yes, most of them are not gonna do that. Most of the candies taste great, but at what point does having the good candies, does having the good Muslims, does that outweigh the fact that you're gonna get the bad candy that will kill you or the bad Muslim that will go on a terrorist attack? So that's the way I see it. It's not a question about is the majority that way? I don't think the majority is that way, but it's really just 1% is a problem, right?

Patrick Bet-David (1:53)

Yeah, so if you say that way, then that means regardless, it's inevitable that some... I just looked at what percentage of China is Muslim, and it's a good percentage. India, 14% of the country is Muslim.

24 of their MPs are Muslims, out of the 543 selected seats. So if you go through the system, first they bring the religion to your country, then they get involved in politics, then they go into the military. China, they have a major example in Erkin Tuniaz, an ethnic Uyghur. He is currently the chairman of Xi Uyghur Autonomous Region Government and Deputy Secretary of Xiampang's Communist Party Committee. So they're also gradually infiltrating politically there as well. How did it happen in America? I mean, I've read some stories about how they started all of a sudden growing and how the first mosque was built. But how did it happen in America? How did it get in here?

Raymond Ibrahim (2:49)

Well, in America, it's still actually very small. If the numbers that I've seen are accurate, something like 1% are only Muslim. And a lot of them, something like half of them are African, are blacks, who convert in prison. Okay? Or at least that was the number I remember a few years ago.

So the numbers... Okay, so here's an interesting thing that people don't know in Islamic law, very well-known teaching. If you as a Muslim, you can't go willingly live in a non-Muslim country, okay?

Patrick Bet-David (3:14)

You can't go willingly?

Raymond Ibrahim (3:15)

You can't willingly. Historically, that's what it was, because a non-Muslim country by nature, it's the infidel.

Patrick Bet-David (3:20)

It's the enemy.

Raymond Ibrahim (3:21)

Yeah, why would you live with them?

Patrick Bet-David (3:22)

Okay?

Raymond Ibrahim (3:23)

But like I told you, Islam is very elastic when it comes to the welfare of Muslims themselves. And so once the West basically said, oh yeah, freedom of religion, you can come build mosques, you can come do whatever you want, yeah, then they started sending them. And one of the other caveats that you can go live in a non-Muslim country is if you actually engage in what's called dhawa, which is preaching Islam, you're trying to win over converts, win over the goodwill of people.

So that was, so if you look in the 60s and 70s, the people who were coming from the Middle East and the Arab world, most of them were actually Christians, okay? But it really started picking up with Muslims later on, 80s, 90s, and increasingly so. And it's being articulated, again, remember, we talked about the Taqayya, and we talked about Spain, and I told you I had lessons. And one of the lessons that they wanted to keep that base Muslims in Granada and have them pretend to be Christians was to have a force there, to try to reconquer. So a lot of the Muslims that are being sent to America and Europe, they have that idea in their head. We are essentially, we're jihadists, okay? Again, in the good term, we are struggling, we are striving on behalf of Islam, and here we are in an infidel country, and we're trying, we're engaged in dawah, we're trying to do whatever, okay? You see places in Texas where they're having this, you know, mosque problem, sharia law problem, and this is with a 1% minority. So imagine in places like in Europe where they have like 10% how aggressive it is, and I've talked to those people, and they tell me it's like a nightmare. You know, there's so many cities they don't even want to enter or go near because they're essentially taken over. You know, they're Islamic enclaves. Literally, police don't enter there. And that too is coming to America.