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**Scott Galloway** (1:53)
Today is number three. That's the number of hours Japan's Prime Minister says she gets per night. Ed, I don't know if you've heard about the new corduroy pillows. They're making headlines.
How much sleep do you get every night, Ed?
**Ed Elson** (2:17)
Seven and a half to eight is my baseline. How much sleep do you get?
**Scott Galloway** (2:21)
It's weird. You think sleep is one of those things that just leaves you. When I was your age, I was a great sleeper, and the amazing thing is my boys are at that age where they can sleep 12 hours now, and I'm like, let them sleep because they're growing. But I would say I get six to seven hours now. I used to get eight. I don't think you need as much sleep when you're my age.
**Ed Elson** (2:44)
I'm jealous. I lament the fact that I need so much sleep. I'll get eight hours, and I'm still exhausted when I wake up in the morning. It drives me nuts.
**Scott Galloway** (2:52)
It's weird.
Either that or you're just grumpy and tired all the time because you can't sleep. But yeah, I go to bed. I usually go to bed around two, and I wake up usually around nine. And an hour of that.
**Ed Elson** (3:07)
That's so crazy. I guess you got to kind of work on US hours a little bit.
But the two 2 a.m. sleep time is nuts to me.
**Scott Galloway** (3:15)
Yeah, but from 11 p.m. to 2 a.m. until I get real work done, when I start actually writing well. And I don't know, there's something about that nighttime. Morning people are more productive, supposedly evening people are more creative. I'm neither. But from 11 p.m. to 2 a.m., it's just me and the dogs, and everyone's safe, and I feel more asleep, and I feel kind of at rest. And that's when I find I can really do, I don't know, real work that'll stand out, if you will.
**Ed Elson** (3:46)
You know who else is like that? Margaret Thatcher.
She would stay up till like four in the morning.
**Scott Galloway** (3:51)
Yeah, me and Margaret Thatcher.
**Ed Elson** (3:52)
And then you know who else is barely sleeps is President Trump. He supposedly gets around four or five hours a night, which is just astounding to me.
**Scott Galloway** (4:01)
He's a fucking fat slob that sleeps in and watches Fox.
**Ed Elson** (4:04)
No, I believe that actually. I believe he watches Fox, and he's got all of his other health issues.
**Scott Galloway** (4:09)
You really believe he sleeps four to five hours? That's what they said about Clinton. I think that's a myth.
**Ed Elson** (4:14)
I think that's real.
So many people have reported it, and it's not like, I don't think they're necessarily bragging. I mean, maybe it is a brag, I don't know. I think it's real. I think it makes sense.
**Scott Galloway** (4:25)
Jeffrey Katzenberg said he only sleeps four to five hours a night. I sat next to him, and I think that's gotta be, I think that's gotta take a real toll on you over time.
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