Hour 4: George Lombard Jr. Debut Sparks Debate on Yankees Shortstop Future

**Chris McMonigle** (0:02)
I don't know this one.

**Craig Carton** (0:03)
No, Tony Tony Tony? Is this Tony Tony Tony? Yeah, sure is.

**Chris McMonigle** (0:06)
I only know the lute. That's the only song I know from Tony Tony Tony.

**SPEAKER_3** (0:08)
You also know it's our anniversary.

**Craig Carton** (0:10)
It's our anniversary. Do you know what day it is?

**Chris McMonigle** (0:14)
No.

**Craig Carton** (0:15)
It's the biggest song I've ever had.

**Chris McMonigle** (0:16)
No, it's not.

**Craig Carton** (0:18)
Yes, it is. Don't make me play that guy.

**Chris McMonigle** (0:21)
If I had no lute, and then... That's their biggest hit.

**Craig Carton** (0:32)
Okay.
That's not me. Real quick, did you see how for all that hubbub about... I don't spend too much attention watching it or thinking about it, but I did notice there's been a little hubbub about the whole transgender thing in the WNBA and like trans rights and everyone's mad at Sophie Cunningham because she's hot, all right? And like coaches are now wearing things about inclusion and all that stuff, that there's a... If you go man to woman, you're a trans woman or man?

**Chris McMonigle** (1:04)
Yeah, if you go man to whatever you are.

**Craig Carton** (1:05)
Oh, I say it appropriately, I don't know.

**Chris McMonigle** (1:08)
If you're a woman now...

**Craig Carton** (1:09)
If you're a dude or became a gal...

**Chris McMonigle** (1:11)
You're a trans woman, I believe.

**Craig Carton** (1:12)
You're a trans woman?

**Chris McMonigle** (1:13)
Yes.

**Craig Carton** (1:14)
All right, so let's just say that's it?

**Chris McMonigle** (1:15)
You're whatever you are in the moment.

**Craig Carton** (1:16)
All right, so apparently there's this badass trans woman basketball player who is respectfully very muscular as a guy might be. She once was a guy, but she identifies as a woman. And wherever league this gal plays in overseas, she is dominating the competition because she's a guy, right? And if you're good enough to play pro ball as a guy, you're clearly going to dominate women at the pro level because you're a guy. That's fair to say. Yeah. So this trans woman who's now dominating the European competition, wants to play in the WNBA.
And the thought is, well, because of the recent attention towards trans rights and inclusivity, and if you identify as a woman, the WNBA doors are open for you. Then you have Clay Travis from Outkick saying he put up 10 million bucks. He'll take last year's champions, the Aces, put them up against a high school boys team of his choosing, and if they beat the boys team, we'll give them 10 million bucks. They'll of course never accept that because they're going to lose to an all-star boys high school team, right? But they're not allowing this former man who identifies as a woman to play in the WNBA, which seems somewhat hypocritical.
Does it not?

**Chris McMonigle** (2:38)
If they're open to that, why are they not open to it with him?

**Craig Carton** (2:41)
Because they're not open to it. Right?

**Chris McMonigle** (2:43)
Or her, excuse me.

**Craig Carton** (2:44)
They're not open to the concept of a man playing basketball. They're open to the concept of speaking towards, we should let everybody play in any sport they want, but just not ours. Right? And I've seen video of this basketball player. Yeah. I haven't seen that. Oh no.
Very athletic, dominating. Yeah.

**Chris McMonigle** (3:04)
The only thing I saw was that Caitlin Clark didn't speak on it or chose not to speak on it.

**Craig Carton** (3:08)
No, she has to, by the way.

**Chris McMonigle** (3:09)
And half of the people on Twitter calling her a coward, half of the people saying what happened to shut up and dribble. I saw that whole nonsense.

**SPEAKER_5** (3:17)
It's not her responsibility to comment on anything she doesn't want to comment on.

**Craig Carton** (3:21)
That being said, why can't, why don't you let this gal play basketball, right? If we're all wearing shirts now, if everyone's angry at Sophie Cunningham, here's your opportunity to back up what you believe in.
A man who became, or I don't know if they had the surgery, but identifies as a woman who's playing against women in Europe or something.

**SPEAKER_5** (3:40)
Yeah.

**Chris McMonigle** (3:41)
I guess that would be my question. Are there, and again, it gets into topics that I'm not educated enough on to speak eloquently, but what's the level of testosterone?

**Craig Carton** (3:49)
I don't know about that. That kind of stuff. I know she's playing with girls.

**Chris McMonigle** (3:53)
There are markers that need to be met under some guidelines. I don't know what the guidelines are in the WNBA.