Hour 2: Red Sox Catch or No Catch?

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So we gave you some year two, four unknown information regarding Jazz Chisholm stealing second and third. But if that play never took place, and let's say the Yankees just won five nothing, we'd all be leading our show and talking about the catch that was or wasn't. So let me bring you back to the fifth inning, nothing, nothing game. And by the way, lost in all this, Will Warren pitched perhaps his best game as a Yankee. With what was on line, the fact that the bullpen was exhausted and he had to give them length, pitching into the eighth inning was extraordinary against the team that he's had trouble against. So kudos to Will Warren. That was a big boy performance by him. Ranger Suarez matched zeros with Warren through four. And then in the bottom of the fifth inning, Jose Caballero hit a hot shot off the glove of Trevor Story. So he leads off with a single. Then Jazz Chisholm comes up and he drives one into the gap. Well, not really the gap. He drives one into right center field. It's a sinking line drive. Now, Sadane Raffaella is about as good as it gets in center field. Coming into the game, 20 defensive runs saved. He makes a dive to make the play.
The second base umpire was actually at second because I believe that Caballero was going on the pitch. So the responsibility of making the call fell to the first base umpire, Edwin Moscoso, who was not as close at first base as Hunter Wendelstead would have been if he didn't have to be covering second. So from his first base perch, which is pretty much near the line behind the bag, he calls that it was a trap.
Well, obviously, the Red Sox challenged because it was really close. Now, let me just veer off for a moment. I've always been a fan of replay. And the reason I always give you is this.
If it was the seventh game of the World Series in the ninth inning, and there was an egregiously incorrect call that cost your team a World Series, you would never, ever get over it. And now, there's something in place that can correct the egregious call. But this was not an egregious call. And the reason why the challenge system is losing me a little bit, every time they look at a play at headquarters, they are impacted and influenced by the call on the field. And that should not be the case. The umpires that are back at the headquarters, looking at all of those replays, should not even know what the call on the field is.
Send them the play.
What is it? Catch or no catch? So they're looking at the replay, and they know that Moscoso called it a trap. So they're looking for something that is going to overturn conclusive evidence that will overturn that it was a trap. They're looking not that it was a catch, they want to see something so conclusive that they can overturn their umpire. That is the wrong tact to take with replay. But that's another story for another day. So they look at all of these replays, and they decide that he didn't make the catch.
Now, the replays that they had on Nessun, the Red Sox broadcast, I would say to me would be conclusive that he did make the catch. A replay that we had on Yes, which was blown up and shows that his glove flipped over, and gravity being what it is, it looked like the ball might have skimmed the grass. He never lost really control of the ball, Raffaella, but it looked like it might have touched the grass. And that's all they needed to say, we're not overturning the call. The call on the field stands. So Red Sox fans up in arms, Raffaella is up in arms. Now, he might not, he might think I did definitely catch the ball. He might not have felt the fact that the replay that Yes, it shows that might have touched grass.
But so many people are saying, if you don't have that call overturn, why do you even have replay? I think we know why we have replay. And I'm telling you why the call wasn't overturned because the call on the field had to be conclusively discounted. And they felt that with the replays they had, that one replay that Yes had, where it looked like the ball was skimming the grass, was enough to say, you know what, it was a trap.