"His DNA Was NOT on the Rifle" – Andrew Wilson Fact-Checks Candace on Tyler’s Trans Boyfriend

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**Andrew Wilson** (0:26)
I do want to play the Twigs clip. That one is important to me, the Twigs DNA clip. They're going to pull it up just to have you respond to it.

**Candace Owens** (0:33)
You don't have to play it because like if you're saying that when I initially watched it, I thought that Lance Twigs' DNA, like he was directly responding to that because the testimony was a bit confusing. They started by saying that they were going to like explaining how they got the samples and they said Lance, Matt and Amberson. Sorry, Lance, Matt and Amber Robinson, how they got their DNA samples. And then they started speaking about the gun and said, you know, multiple prints were found on them. And then they moved and they said Lance Twigs' DNA was found on the screwdriver.
When I went back and rewatched it, I realized, well, they haven't officially said that Lance or Amber are on the gun. So I think I've already conceded that we don't know that.

**Andrew Wilson** (1:11)
So I think like, but if you're if you want to play the clip directly, you're saying it is on the gun. Twigs' DNA is on the gun.

**Candace Owens** (1:19)
I feel like I've already said to you, like I've made that concession. But just to be clear, whenever I make a mistake, I just correct it. So that's why when you were asking me three times, I've already said we don't know yet, and I've corrected that mistake. So if the purpose of you showing this is to demonstrate that Candace makes mistakes sometimes, when she's taking in a lot of information and she's reading through legal documents and she's trying to remember nine-hour testimony.

**Andrew Wilson** (1:45)
It's just to demonstrate something else. It is, in fact, the case we're all going to make mistakes.

**Patrick Bet-David** (1:49)
I'm going to make mistakes on the case. I've already conceded.

**Andrew Wilson** (1:50)
You're going to make mistakes on the case. Yeah. But in this case, you were very adamant that his DNA was on the gun itself.

**Candace Owens** (1:58)
Yeah. So I'm just saying that it's not ruled out. We know that there's five plus prints. I've said this so many times. I had to rewatch the testimony again. It's like nine hours a day.
It got very scientific when they were speaking about this. And I think I wrongly extrapolated that they meant all three of them were on the prints when the only person they officially named was Matt Robinson. So we don't know yet if Lance Twigs has his DNA on the prints, DNA on the gun, officially just yet. I've already conceded that, so.

**Andrew Wilson** (2:25)
That's fine. And then the last one is one with Erica Kirk.

**Candace Owens** (2:28)
Sure. This is like the Erica Kirk. Like, all right, Erica, you could just sit down with me, Erica, but we can do it this way.

**Andrew Wilson** (2:35)
This goes back to a previous claim that you made.

**SPEAKER_5** (2:37)
Yeah, sure. I straight to jail, straight to jail. We're questioning at least, Erica.

**Candace Owens** (2:45)
I don't care who's mad. I really do not care who wants to be upset after this episode. Really, you will be wasting your breath. You can spend a billion dollars on influencers because this is all becoming increasingly inexplicable. You are asking me to be an idiot, actually, and I cannot do that for you.
Someone once commented beneath this show that if the situations were reversed and there were this many verifiable lies...

**Andrew Wilson** (3:14)
Straight to jail?

**Candace Owens** (3:15)
Yeah, so that's the show intro and straight to jail, straight to jail is a monopoly term.

**Andrew Wilson** (3:19)
Okay, so do not pass go, do not collect $200.

**Candace Owens** (3:23)
It's obviously tongue in cheek. And then may explain that actually, I think that she should be brought in for questioning because of inconsistencies. So this is the exact episode when I started to think that she should be sat down and questioned.
And I still believe that. I still hold the perspective that Erica should be sat down and she should be properly questioned.