Hire 1 to Hire 10, Sam Gets Hacked, Shaan Buys a $200K NFT, and More with Andrew Wilkinson

**Sam Parr** (0:00)
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**Andrew Wilkinson** (0:31)
Like first, it's exhilarating. Running an agency is awesome. When you're starting out, you get a seat at the table and all these places you don't deserve to be, right? I was like a 22 year old pipsqueak, and I was meeting the founders of Pinterest and Slack, and they were asking me for my opinion, right?
It was crazy.

**Shaan Puri** (0:59)
All right, we got Andrew Wilkinson on the pod today. We just talked about Sam got hacked and situation where Andrew got hacked and how crazy the hacking situation is. We talked about this $200,000 NFT I bought and whether that was dumb or a good idea.
We talked about how Andrew is functioning during World War Three going on or the craziness of the world and how he's dealing with that. What else did we talk about, Sam?

**Sam Parr** (1:24)
We talked about how when he thinks it's time to hire first employees, which sounds like a basic concept, but I actually thought it was really cool.

**Shaan Puri** (1:31)
No, there's a gem in there called hire one to hire 10 And he talks about this little nugget.
I wrote that down during the pod as like, oh shit, I've been making this mistake for a long time. He's totally right. We talked about why bad guys usually win fraudsters, con artists. And we talked about his newsletter business and the art of copywriting and some of the, we took one of his private kind of emails and we started talking about some of the genius things that he did in the copywriting of that.

**Sam Parr** (1:58)
Shaan, you were awfully quiet this episode. And I was too, because I was like just listening and learning. Is that what you were doing?

**Shaan Puri** (2:05)
I was listening and learning. And then also our connection, our internet connection is not super great. So I didn't know when you were gonna talk versus when I was gonna talk. So I was just decided to be paused a lot of times.

**Sam Parr** (2:14)
But it was good. I always like having them on.

**Shaan Puri** (2:17)
All right, cool. Enjoy this episode.

**Sam Parr** (2:19)
All right, Andrew Wilkinson's here. What's up, dude?

**Andrew Wilkinson** (2:23)
Hey, man. How you doing? We were supposed to do this in person, but I got COVID.

**Sam Parr** (2:27)
Yeah, I know. We had like 200 people coming to see you and I talk and we canceled it like three days in advance.

**Andrew Wilkinson** (2:34)
So crappy. We gotta do it. But COVID was, I've had worse massages, so it wasn't too bad. I was one of the lucky ones, unlike Sean.

**Sam Parr** (2:43)
That's a good one.

**Shaan Puri** (2:46)
Excellent one liner.

**Sam Parr** (2:47)
Can I, all right, can I tell you guys what happened to me this weekend? I had a long weekend. So, Sean, I called Sean urgently because he was the first person to come to mind because I thought he would know someone at Twitter. But basically I got hacked.
And let me explain to you how I got got, because I got got, good. So basically I was sitting in my bath.
Yeah, I was sitting in a bath at 1 p.m.
And I get this text from a number and it says, in a really nice text, I actually, I sent you a picture, Sean, and it says, we've noticed suspicious activity on Twitter from some city in India. And it said the name of the city. And it was this real official looking text. And it said, we just sent you a confirmation code and another text. Can you copy that code and paste it to us so we know that this is you?

**Shaan Puri** (3:36)
It's you.

**Sam Parr** (3:38)
And I get this other text right at the same time. And it's from Twitter and it's eight numbers. And I copy it and I put it in the other text. I hit send. And then immediately I was like, wait a minute. That was, I should not have done that.
And what it was, was it was the text from Twitter. That was actually someone hitting reset password. And they sent me a text and I sent it to those people.