Skip to content
Heroic Decision Making - The Tham Luang Cave Rescue | Dr. Richard Harris artwork

Heroic Decision Making - The Tham Luang Cave Rescue | Dr. Richard Harris

Finding Mastery with Dr. Michael Gervais

June 9, 2021

This week’s conversation is with Dr. Richard “Harry” Harris, an Australian anesthetist and cave diver who played a crucial role in the Tham Luang cave rescue.

Speakers Richard Harris, Michael Gervais

TopicsSelf-ImprovementEducationHealth & FitnessMental Health

Richard Harris (0:00)

In the end, people keep saying to me, if you genuinely believe that it would 100% fail what you were proposing, why or how could you possibly have entertained that? And to me, the decision became very binary. It was either leave them to die a very slow awful death from starvation, exposure or infection, let alone the psychological terror that that would impart upon them.

Or you take them out and probably they'll die, but they'll be anaesthetized and asleep when that happens. So essentially, euthanasizing them. And I think there's a very pragmatic answer to that question, one or the other.

Michael Gervais (0:49)

All right, welcome back, or welcome to, if you're new here, to the Finding Mastery podcast. I'm Michael Gervais, and by Trade in Training, I am a sport and performance psychologist. And the whole idea behind these conversations is to learn from people who are committed to both their craft and their inner life. We wanna better understand what they're searching for. We wanna know their psychological framework, which is really how do they use their mind? How do they make sense of the world around them, themselves included? And if you wanna learn more about how you can train your mind, it's just a quick little reminder here to check out the online psychological training course that I created with the head coach of the Seattle Seahawks, Pete Carroll. And you can find that at findingmastery.net forward slash course. Basically what we do is you just pull back the curtain and show you just like we train world-class athletes, how they train their mind. We do the same for you. We show you how to do it.

Finding Mastery is brought to you by Neurohacker. There's a good chance that you're interested in aging well. And if that's the case for you, it's really important to understand a bit of the science behind aging. You might have heard about senescent cells, often referred to as zombie cells. These are old worn out cells that linger in your body, consuming energy and nutrients without contributing to your health. So as you age, these cells accumulate, leading to common aging symptoms like decreased mental and physical energy, slower recovery from workouts, joint discomfort, less flexibility and so on. So enter Qualia Senolytic by Neurohacker, a science-backed formula that is designed to help your body naturally eliminate these zombie cells. This formula includes a game-changing combination of ingredients that are aimed at extending your prime years. And they've made it really simple. You just take the product two days a month, that's it. It's like a monthly cleanse for your cells. So if you're interested in aging well, I really want to encourage you to check out Qualia Senolytic. Just head to neurohacker.com/findingmastery15 and enter the code findingmastery15, that's a one five, at checkout for an additional 15% off any purchase. Disclaimer, these statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. So, this product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease.

Finding Mastery is brought to you by FASIT. When we think about what it takes to thrive and to live a life of flourishing, there's no doubt that financial wellness is a big part of that equation.

There's lots of ways to manage your money. And here's one that you might be interested in.

FASIT is the next generation of personalized financial planning. They're on a mission to make expert financial advice accessible to the masses.

So FASIT provides you with flexible access to a team of financial planners and a team of experts across retirement planning, tax strategy, estate planning and more. And the best part here is that instead of taking a percentage of your portfolio, FASIT only charges an affordable flat membership fee and doesn't charge you to invest with them. This is extremely rare for the industry. As you probably know, most financial advisors charge you a percentage of your assets. And even if it's only 1%, those fees can really add up over the course of your lifetime. And because you're listening to this podcast, FASIT is hooking you up with a great offer. When you sign up today, FASIT will waive the $250 enrollment fee for new annual members. And they have an epic limited time offer on top of that. To learn more, just head to facit.com/fm. Again, this one is a little different. That's facit, facet.com/fm to waive your enrollment fee and to learn more about their limited time offer. A little disclosure here. FASIT Wealth Inc, FASIT is an SEC, Registered Investment Advisor, headquartered in Baltimore, Maryland. This is not an offer to sell securities or investment, financial, legal or tax advice. Past performance is not a guarantee of future performance, terms and conditions apply.

84 more minutes of transcript below

Thousands of transcripts fetched by people building searchable podcast archives

Fetch the whole transcript

The demo key returns a sample episode in full, no card needed:

request
curl -H "x-api-key: pt_demo" \
  https://spoken.md/transcripts/1000651996090

Markdown with the speakers named, for your notes, your knowledge base, or anything that makes HTTP calls.

From $0.10 per transcript. No subscription. Credits never expire. Prices exclude VAT, added at checkout for EU customers. Not what you expected? Email us within 14 days with 20 or fewer credits used and we refund the pack in full.

Using your own key:

request
curl -H "x-api-key: YOUR_KEY" \
  https://spoken.md/transcripts/1000524745105