He Was Banned 7 Times for Saying This About Black America | PBD Podcast #816 artwork

He Was Banned 7 Times for Saying This About Black America | PBD Podcast #816

PBD Podcast

June 11, 2026

Andre Williams joins Patrick Bet-David for an unfiltered conversation on the future of Black America, breaking down his concept of "black fatigue" and the cultural issues he believes are holding communities back.
Speakers: Andre Williams, Patrick Bet-David
**Andre Williams** (0:11)
The four different types of black Americans. I don't know if I can be uncensored. Can I be uncensored?

**SPEAKER_2** (0:16)
Blacks, Negroes, and.

**Patrick Bet-David** (0:23)
How can they get out of it, if that's the case?

**Andre Williams** (0:27)
love to dig deep in the ass of history to pull out an example of why they're doing bad here in the present, and make that it is an excuse.

**Patrick Bet-David** (0:35)
Why, though? Is it because white man's the enemy?

**Andre Williams** (0:39)
We exist in a current slavery, a mental slavery, that is far greater and far more oppressive than we could ever imagine.
I think this comes from mainly the 1990s, with the music industry, black people flashing a bunch of money, living a lifestyle that they'll never live, and celebrating like it's a wedding. And really it is a wedding. It's a wedding of mediocrity. We also have to talk about the significant level of Jewish influence in hip hop. They understand that there is a problem racially in this country, that there's always going to be a difference between blacks and whites. And I think historically, the last 100 years, they have used the racial conditions of this country in order to gain more and more power. Some rights movement is a proud example of that.

**Patrick Bet-David** (1:16)
Why is that? Why is this so common?

**Andre Williams** (1:18)
Like I said, the government benefits.

**Patrick Bet-David** (1:19)
You think the government benefits from this?

**Andre Williams** (1:21)
Oh, 1000%.

**Patrick Bet-David** (1:22)
How?

**Andre Williams** (1:23)
Rosa Parks, that was an entire event orchestrated by NAACP. That's the original hoax, racial hoaxes.

**Patrick Bet-David** (1:29)
I wonder how serious people like you are to cause change versus actually be shock-jock.

**Andre Williams** (1:37)
I don't have any fear in what I'm saying because I know I'm right.

**Patrick Bet-David** (1:39)
But hear me out for a second. We're very well-communicated. All we're doing is talking about the bad.

**Andre Williams** (1:45)
I know that having this conversation, being aggressive and combating this culture that is destructive to our future, to our survival, is necessary. Black people won't have me on because it's going to be an honest conversation about where we're going.

**Patrick Bet-David** (1:57)
They'll have you on after this.

**Andre Williams** (1:58)
I'm hoping that they will.

**Patrick Bet-David** (2:08)
Andre Williams, how you doing?

**Andre Williams** (2:09)
I'm doing all right, Patrick, how about you?

**Patrick Bet-David** (2:10)
Very good, thanks for coming down. I know we saw some of your content.
What's it called? It's called Soft White Underbelly YouTube Channel. And you say some controversial, some bold things. It may not be controversial to you, but it gets some reaction from people.

**Andre Williams** (2:27)
It does, it does.

**Patrick Bet-David** (2:28)
Okay, so walk me through, before we get into it, and get into your story and bunch of different ideas and thoughts that you have, stories that you have. What does black fatigue mean to you?

**Andre Williams** (2:38)
Well, black fatigue means to me, it's a collective tiredness of the culture, the condition, the behavior of black people currently today.
We're seeing so much crime, so much instability.
We're seeing the teen takeovers across the country. And mainly, when we look at black fatigue, this is something that black people have to do with at the end of the day. It affects every other community across the country, but the crime and instability, the first people that has to deal with that, black people. Look at the predominately black cities. I come from Detroit. Look at Chicago, Baltimore. Look, name any city that has a majority black population. It's aggressive to live there. And the black people who are doing well, guess what they do? They have to leave the community. They have to walk away from the community because they can't not exist in this unstable and chaotic environment. So that's pretty much black fatigue to me.

**Patrick Bet-David** (3:26)
One of the things you normally talk about is the four different types of blacks. Maybe it's good for the audience if they haven't heard it. What you call, I can't say it. You can say it.

**Andre Williams** (3:34)
Well, you can say it.

**Patrick Bet-David** (3:36)
I want you to say it.

**Andre Williams** (3:37)
Anybody can say it. And I love that video. I made that video, the four different types of black Americans. Originally I made it on TikTok. And this is on my, I think my first or second TikTok. I had seven. They've been all banned. I've been demonetized everywhere.

**Patrick Bet-David** (3:51)
On TikTok?

**Andre Williams** (3:52)
On TikTok, yeah. I can't even go on TikTok and post anymore. So I make the video on TikTok. It got about a million views. It was three minutes long.

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