HD DVD vs. Blu-ray: How Toshiba Lost $986 Million on the Wrong Disc

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Imagine losing nearly a billion dollars. I mean, 986 million to be exact.

And doing it all because you bet the entire future of your company on the wrong piece of five inch plastic.

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Yeah, it is honestly hard to even wrap your head around that kind of financial loss.

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Right, but that was the actual reality for a massive tech giant in the late 2000s.

So welcome to today's Deep Dive. Our stack of sources today reveals a completely fascinating history of the HD DVD format.

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Which is essentially the modern day sequel to the VHS versus Betamax wars.

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Exactly.

And our mission today is to figure out exactly why this format ended up in the graveyard of tech history. Because there's this massive central paradox here.

SPEAKER_2 (0:44)

Oh, absolutely. On paper, they did almost everything right.

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Yeah.

I mean, HD DVD hit the market first. It was significantly cheaper to manufacture. It had the backing of a software giant like Microsoft.

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Right. And it didn't even use those restrictive region codes that locked you out of importing foreign movies. Yes.

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So how does a product with all those advantages just completely crash and burn?

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Well, to really understand how the war started, we have to look at the problem both sides were desperately trying to solve back then.

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Which was the arrival of high-definition television.

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Exactly. HD TVs started hitting the market in the late 90s. Consumers are spending thousands on these massive widescreen 1080p displays.

But they had a major bottleneck.

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Right. There were no disks capable of actually storing that massive amount of data.

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Yeah. They were feeding these beautiful screens a standard definition signal. A traditional DVD resolution is just 480p.

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Which if you stretch it across a massive high-definition screen, looks incredibly soft and just pixelated.

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It looks terrible.

You can't just squeeze a high-definition movie onto a standard DVD. A dual-layer DVD maxes out around 8.5 gigabytes.

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Even with those highly-efficient modern compression algorithms like VC1 or AVC, you still need way more physical storage.

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Right. The technological leap that finally made that possible actually came from a researcher named Shuji Nakamura.

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Oh, the blue laser diode.

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Yes. His invention of the practical blue laser was the absolute catalyst for this entire format war.

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Because up until then, standard DVD players used red lasers, right?

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Exactly. The physics of the laser completely dictates how much storage capacity a disc has. Because blue light has a much shorter wavelength than red light.

SPEAKER_1 (2:27)

It's like 405 nanometers for blue compared to, what, 650 for red?

SPEAKER_2 (2:30)

Yeah, roughly 650 Okay. So if you think about the laser actually reading the data tracks on the disc.

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The little ones and zeros.

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Right, the pits and lands. A red laser is kind of like tracing a line with a thick permanent marker.

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Oh, I like that.

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But a blue laser is like drawing with an ultra fine tip technical pen. Because that beam of light is so much narrower, you can pack the physical data much, much tighter together.

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On the exact same five-inch surface area.

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Exactly.

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So you've got this brilliant new technology. You think the industry would just come together and use it, right?

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You would think so.

But no. The DVD Forum, which was this massive consortium of tech companies that successfully standardized the original DVD, they completely fractured.

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It's so ironic because Sony was actually the chair of the Forum. But they split off with Philips to create this radically new, incredibly expensive format.

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Which eventually became Blu-ray.

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Right. And Sony's design pushed the data layer super close to the surface of the disk, just like 0.1 millimeters deep.

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Which made the early prototypes insanely fragile. They were so vulnerable to scratches that you literally had to keep the disk inside a bulky plastic caddy.

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Just so the oils from your fingerprints wouldn't destroy the movie.

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Yeah. It was super clumsy.

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Meanwhile, Toshiba and NEC looked at that and proposed the Advanced Optical Disk, which they later renamed HD DVD.

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And their entire pitch was cost efficiency.

SPEAKER_1 (3:52)

Exactly. They wanted to keep the physical structure of the disk, specifically the depth of the data layer, exactly the same as standard DVDs.

SPEAKER_2 (3:59)

Right. At 0.6 millimeters. Okay.

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Let's unpack this because the strategy here is fascinating. Think about it like housing.