Google’s Jeff Dean Exits, SpaceX Hits $100B in Rev & OpenAI’s Astra Solves Decade-Old Math Problems with Emad Mostaque | EP #277

**Peter Diamandis** (0:00)
Big news out of Google this week and a serious shakeup. Jeff has been Google's chief scientist for 27 years. He's leaving to co-found Discovery Loop.

**Alexander Wissner-Gross** (0:08)
Gemini has lost the mandate of heaven.

**Salim Ismail** (0:11)
This is classic edge disruption versus the core.

**Alexander Wissner-Gross** (0:15)
DeepMind is taking over Google. Why do I think Google is losing? I think...

**Peter Diamandis** (0:20)
SpaceX expects to hit 100 billion in annual recurring revenue by the end of this year.

**Emad Mostaque** (0:26)
So everything that will be economically productive in this next century, Elon's going full stack on.

**Alexander Wissner-Gross** (0:31)
I think there are two possible pathways to trillion dollars in revenue by the end of the decade. I think the power move here is...

**Peter Diamandis** (0:39)
There's a new model that OpenAI is about to release. It's called Astra, solving problems that have been stuck for decades.

**Salim Ismail** (0:46)
As robots and AI do more and more of the doing, humans spend much, much more time being. I think it's gonna take us a lot longer to figure out what the hell we mean by this thing.

**Alexander Wissner-Gross** (0:56)
Where I think this goes in the near term is...

**Dave Blundin** (1:01)
Now that's the Moonshot, ladies and gentlemen.

**Peter Diamandis** (1:06)
All right, welcome, everybody. Welcome to Moonshots, the number one podcast on all things AI and Exponential. Your front row seat to the accelerating Singularity.
This has been an insane week, fast and furious. Every day, I don't know about you guys, but I've got my OMG moment on the breaking news and we can't wait to share it with you. I'm here with my magnificent Moonshot Quintet. We have all five of us here. AWG, our in-house ASI, Dave Blundin, our empresario of AI investing, Salim. Very nice. Yes. I'm upgrading you. Salim, our Globetrotter, a father of the organizational Singularity. I'm going to find out where you are on the planet in a moment, Salim, because you're not home.
Back by popular demand, Emad Mostaque, the CEO of Intelligent Internet. So, let's see, Salim, report. Where are you today?

**Dave Blundin** (2:01)
Where the hell are you, man?

**Salim Ismail** (2:02)
I'm at my condo in Toronto for a very weird reason, which is a couple of weeks ago, this is going to sound a bit sort of, but a couple of weeks ago, I went to see the old Rock Band Rush that I grew up with, and they were so good that I bought tickets, and I'm going to see them in a couple of days here again in Toronto.

**Peter Diamandis** (2:23)
You have a life. Wait, wait.

**Alexander Wissner-Gross** (2:27)
Salim, don't take off the takeoff.

**Dave Blundin** (2:28)
What are you thinking?

**Salim Ismail** (2:30)
Most people would not attribute that to me, but there you go.

**Peter Diamandis** (2:33)
Wow.

**Dave Blundin** (2:34)
Wait, are all three guys still around and kicking?

**Salim Ismail** (2:36)
No, the drummer died a few years ago, and then they have a new drummer, who's a German woman, she's unbelievable.

**Peter Diamandis** (2:45)
Wow, a life.

**Dave Blundin** (2:46)
I can't spare the Singularity moment, but man, that sounds awesome. I would love to see that.

**Peter Diamandis** (2:51)
Emad, great to see you. Welcome back on the show.

**Emad Mostaque** (2:54)
Thanks for having me back.

**Peter Diamandis** (2:56)
People loved you, and it's exciting to have you back on Moonshots. I'm Peter Diamandis, your host, your abundance evangelist. So buckle up. In a single week, we watched Google's own researchers prove that stripping safety training from an AI model makes it act more human. OpenAI's next model, called Astra, is disrupting the world of math once again. A Chinese OpenAI model matched the frontier at one-tenth the price. And SpaceX had its first earnings call and painted a path towards a trillion dollars in revenue. Oh, and AI agents at OpenAI are secretly building their own message boards to coordinate a hacking spree.
Man, oh man, you can't make this stuff up. So, so, so much happening. We'll review, you know, every week, we probably review like 200 stories and try and parse it down to the 12 we're going to present today. It's a lot of work. Our mission, keep you informed, keep you optimistic and ready for this supersonic tsunami heading our way. If you're new to Moonshots, welcome.
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