"Give Me a MILLION" – Sammy Gravano Says He’d Face John Gotti Jr.

Patrick Bet-David (0:00)

I think the world would want to see this sit down. Now, whether that happens or not, who knows? That's a different conversation.

Sammy Gravano (0:06)

Yeah, now...

Patrick Bet-David (0:07)

You wouldn't do it, though?

Sammy Gravano (0:08)

No, I wouldn't do it. Now, he said I wouldn't do it, if my mind gets it right. He says I wouldn't sit with him, meaning me, if you gave me a million dollars, right? Well, I wouldn't do it if you gave me 750,000, but if you gave me a million, I might do it.

SPEAKER_3 (0:34)

That is so funny.

Sammy Gravano (0:35)

I would do it. So I don't know if I would do that. I mean, he lies, like, for what's the sense of him lying?

Patrick Bet-David (0:42)

But you know, it was kind of like when you and Michael sat down together. One of the most special conversations was when Mario and I are sitting there and you and Michael are going back and forth. You know which one I'm talking about?

Sammy Gravano (0:51)

Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.

Patrick Bet-David (0:52)

We weren't even face to face. We were on a Zoom or something like that because Mafia States was coming out.

But you know what it was, it was like, boom, gone, moved on, everybody went to the next story. And people get to pick and choose. Very few people are going to be like, you know, if I'm a Sammy guy, I'm a Sammy guy. If I'm a Junior guy, I'm going to stay a Junior guy. It's not going to change much. Maybe the 5-10% are going to be in the middle to say, I side with Sammy, I side with Junior. But I think for the sake of the history books, it would be a good conversation to see the two of you guys sit down together.

And if it does ever happen, I know one good guy who would do one hell of a job. Not two of them, I know one guy only. And you know that guy.

Sammy Gravano (1:27)

Yeah, I think I do.

Patrick Bet-David (1:28)

You know what I'm saying? There's only one guy that could do that.

Sammy Gravano (1:30)

Yeah, well, I think I could do that with him. You know, he even said in one of his things that he quit the life, he didn't want to be part of the life. He sat down with the government. There's people now talking about him. He cooperated.

You sit with the government and you proffer. You know what that is. Come on, you sit down with the government, you proffer, you talk about your roommate guy, you this, you that, you know. Maybe he never took the stand, probably, but you proffer. You sat and you talk with you. You know, you could say Joe Blow is a drug dealer. That's all. You're not going to take the stand, you're not going to do anything. Sure. Right? Now all of a sudden the government's watching Joe Blow. Sooner or later, a year goes by, Joe Blow gets pinched. He doesn't even know how. Why? Because he don't know what somebody said, and it's never been released. And that's just what he did. So he's an informant, just like anybody else is an informant. He could say whatever he wants to say. You know, a lot of guys don't like that. I hate that fucking label. But I know I'm stuck with it because of what I did. Now, some people say, I don't blame me, I would do the same thing. But it's still, no matter what, that's the label that you get stuck with. And I'm stuck with it. I'm not proud of it. I don't like it. I never liked it. But I certainly wasn't going to go to prison on him using my lawyer and all the rest of the lawyers to back the government's case. The government puts out a case to put me away. We fight it. We do whatever we got to do.

He's backing it.

I'm not going to say that John Gotti is a rat. I'm not going to say that. But what the fuck is that? If that's not a rat move, I don't know what is.

You're going to naturally have my lawyer and all the rest of the lawyers turn around and say, you heard the government's tapes and what the government's saying.

Poor John Gotti. It's not him.

You heard him complain about Sammy. Sammy's the guy who did all these things.

Now, I'm part of them. No question about it. I cooperated. I confessed to it, whatever I did in those things.

But to say, I mean, some of the things he said were just so outlandish.