Frontier Labs Want to Slow Down, OpenAI Delays Its 2026 IPO, Anthropic Flags 5 Bioweapon Cases | EP #291

Peter Diamandis (0:00)

Dario Amadei, CEO of Anthropic, published a 3,800 word essay titled We Must Pace the Frontier. Three hours later, Sam, Elon said, You're right, Monday, President Trump called it a hoax, and China called it a Cold War trick.

Alexander Wissner-Gross (0:14)

Nothing less than a clumsy decapitation attempt against the takeoff itself.

Peter Diamandis (0:20)

Sam Altman told Fortune that OpenAI will not go public in 2026 He told Reuters even a 10% extinction risk would be unacceptable.

Alexander Wissner-Gross (0:28)

I think this is pure theater. You don't want to IPO now? Blame safety. You want world government? Blame safety. The dog ate my homework, and the safety ate my IPO.

Peter Diamandis (0:37)

Anthropic released its September threat intelligence report documenting real malicious use of CLAWD, five cases involving activity that could support biological weapons development. The bio red line that every lab said it wants to stay below, Anthropic has said, we can't promise that we haven't crossed it.

Salim Ismail (0:54)

The fact that it's happening just on the eve of this summit is not, I think, an accident.

Peter Diamandis (0:58)

Let's be clear about one thing. There is going to be AI regulation.

Alexander Wissner-Gross (1:04)

Now that's the Moonshot, ladies and gentlemen. This episode is brought to you by the Abundance Summit and Link Ventures.

Peter Diamandis (1:15)

Welcome to Moonshots, everyone, your number one podcast in all things AI and exponential. And this week, you're seated at the table where the future of the entire industry just got renegotiated in the past 72 hours. On Saturday, Dario Amadei said, slow down. Three hours later, Sam, Elon said, you're right. Monday, President Trump called it a hoax, and China called it a Cold War trick.

That's the last few days, buckle up. It's never going to be slower than it is today. Let me introduce you to my extraordinary Moonshot mates, the fantastic four this week, AWG, Alex Wissner-Gross, the only man alive who reads a 3,800 AI policy essay and says needs for math. Dave Blundin, who just watched every VC on Sand Hill Road discover the word Moonshot, and who's been funding them all along at Link Ventures the whole time. Salim Ismail, warlord against linear thinking, and this week apparently an avid accelerationist promoting PFAB over PDoom.

Sound right, Salim?

Salim Ismail (2:18)

Sounds about right. We've got some alternatives that I'd like to bounce out and get your guys' viewpoints on it.

Peter Diamandis (2:23)

All right, that's great.

Dave Blundin (2:24)

That'll be fun.

Peter Diamandis (2:25)

Imaad is out this episode, but we'll have him back soon. Imaad, we miss you already. I'm Peter Diamandis, your host and abundance provocateur, frantically working a 36-hour day just to keep up with what's happened over the last week. Our mission on Moonshots is, as always, to help you understand what just happened, what it means for you, and to keep you abundance minded during the decade ahead. If you haven't subscribed yet, please do. Two episodes a week, and this week, honestly, we could have done five episodes.

I want to take a second, as I've done before, take a moment to say thank you to our subscribers. You know, there are a few quotes that I loved from at medical Mandalorians. The only show I find myself compulsively checking for new episodes. Thank you for documenting the singularity and keeping us all optimistic and informed. From ZMW0093, How I've missed this channel for so long, I have no idea. Without question, this is the best place to really contemplate where AI is actually going. And from Monday's episode, AtbroZ3U, who's got 248 likes on this one, he says, quote, I can't wait for when progress starts to move so fast, and the mates are going to have to be live 24-7.

Careful for what you wish for. That's OK.

Dave Blundin (3:45)

Our avatars will do that.

Peter Diamandis (3:47)

I think that's about it, right? That's the dematerialization of this podcast. And at Taylor Luck says, quote, I don't know why, but this show makes me stop everything I'm doing and start watching immediately. I don't fangirl about celebrities, but I would definitely freak out if I got a chance to meet you guys in person. Well, Taylor, come to Moonshots Live next week on the 25th and freak out in person.

All right. That means a lot to us guys. Our mission here is to reach 10 million subscribers. Why not have a 100x growth objective, right? And at GWWinston6532 said it best, it blows my mind that only a few hundred thousand people watch this every week. Everyone needs to be watching. All right, so share it with everyone. Today, we're going to cover the insanity that took place over the last five days. Try and lay out what it means in a meaningful fashion, understandable fashion, probably a little bit of a debate amongst the mates here.