Franklin: Revenge of the American Genius (Part 2) artwork

Franklin: Revenge of the American Genius (Part 2)

The Rest Is History

July 1, 2026

Was Benjamin Franklin really an American? What was his childhood like? How was he finally converted to the American Revolutionary cause? And, what role did he play in setting the struggle in motion?
Speakers: Tom, Dominic, Paris Hilton, Gary Lineker
**Tom** (0:01)
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**Dominic** (0:12)
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**Tom** (0:49)
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**Paris Hilton** (1:32)
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**Dominic** (2:13)
A lion's whelp was put on board a guinea ship bound to America as a present to a friend in that country. It was tame and harmless as a kitten, and therefore not confined, but suffered to walk about the ship at pleasure.
A stately, full-grown English mastiff belonging to the captain, despoising the weakness of the young lion, frequently took its food by farce and often turned it out of its lodging box when it had a moine to repose therein himself.
The young lion nevertheless grew daily in soys and strength, and the voyage being long, he became at last a more equal match for the mastiff, who, continuing his insults, received a stunning blow from the lion's paw that fetched his skin over his ears and deterred him from any future contest with such growing strength, regretting that he had not rather secured its friendship than provoked its enmity.
So that was a chilling parable. And it was first published in the General Advertiser on the 2nd of January, 1770 Two months before the event that Americans call the Boston Massacre. And that's the moment when British troops who were being attacked by a hostile mob fired on the crowd and killed no fewer than five Americans. And this so-called massacre was a crucial episode in the process that would see the 13 rebel colonies of North America secede from the mother country, Britain. They won a war that lasted eight years. And with the aid of the French, they established themselves as the United States of America, as an independent and sovereign republic. And this summer marks the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence. And Tom, we're marking it by exploring the lives of four of the Founding Fathers, as they would have called themselves. So in our first episode, we talked about George Washington, the most celebrated of the Founding Fathers, unquestionably the one with the worst teeth. But he did not sign the Declaration of Independence. Now today, we are with the first of the two signatories that we're talking about in this series. And this is the man who wrote that parable about the mastiff and the lion cub. And that is a man called Benjamin Franklin, correct?

**Tom** (4:48)
And I think the meaning of that parable is very clear. The mastiff, the pedigree dog is Britain, and the lion cub is America. And Franklin is basically warning the British, don't push us Americans around, assuming that we are always going to be as puny as we currently are because we are going to grow up.

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